How much game does a guy need to date a stripper?

[MasterYoda]

hi,
how much game does a guy need to game a stripper and how handsome does he need to be?

 

[Maximus Rex]

On the sosuvave.com part of the site, there's advice on how to pull a stippper. Whatever you do, DON'T GIVE HER MONEY!!!!

 

[MasterYoda]

wouldn't that get me kicked outof the club?

how easy it it to game strippers?

I am not looking for Long Term relationships, just Short term

 

[specialed]

my brother mastered this...why i dunno.

he goes to strip clubs once in a long while with his guy friends...and they just chill in the back and just buy themselves drinks, they don't give a dime to the girls. and they just chat them up. my brother has a lot of strippers numbers in his phone, and ask him to party pretty frequently.

 

[backbreaker]

there is? (the sosuave.com part) that would be in interesting read of anything else

I was damn near engaged to one and ****ed around with another.. the ltr BECAME a stripper while we were dating and the girl I messed aorund with was a stripper when I met her.

strippers, in most not all cases.. are nutjobs.. INcluding my ex. not becuase they strip. I don't see anything wrong with that. it just happens to be that most are nutty and not worth it.

the only thing I liked really about the stripper aspect of it all was that they worked at night so I could go out by myself and not hear any lip. WTF is she going to tell me.. I can't go out? YOU DANCE NAKED FOR MONEY! Freaking hypocrite

 

[MasterYoda]

B.breaker I feel the same way about strippers. I am not hoping on a ltr with one but I just one to have one purely for the experience. The only thing is I am not sure how hard or not so hard it will be, since I am sure strippers will be giving false IOI's and DLV's and what not.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

For sh1tz and giggles I tried to find the major difference between strippers and "other women" and all I could come up with was that strippers get paid for undressing in front of multiple people. Other than payment and the amount of men watching at once, I couldn't think of anything that separated them from any other HB that guys wanted to bed. Any comments?

 

[backbreaker]

i wil say this.. if you can pull a stripper (a good looking one that makes good money) you can pull almost any girl on earth.

These are women the are PAID (very well) to flirt and send false signals.

hell i'm not busy now, let me explain what happened to this girl (Stripper) I am quazi seeing.

back in arkansas (i am in florida now) there is a strip club I visit all the time when I want to get out the house and I don't have anything (or anyone) to do that night.. maybe 1 time every 2 weeks, something like that.

anyway, there is this one dancer who is flat out georgous. About 5'2-5'3, white/italian, long hair, the best ass I have ever seen, great body for that matter.

anyway, when I first went in the club, about 10 months ago, I saw her, and I signaled her to give me a dance. Her name is Paris (stage name at least) and it proceeded to be the worst dance I have ever had in my life. So as good looking as she was, I would stage tip her but woudlnt' get any private dances from her.

AFter a couple of months of this, her coming over to sit and talk to me when she isn't busy (by now I know everyone in the damn club) and me dancing with everyone execpt her, she asks me "do you think I am ugly? Why won't you dance with me anymore?" and I tell her basically... you suck, with a little more tact of course. So she tells me that she has gotten alot better and tells me to get a 2 for 1 to let her prove it. So I do, and she is right, and it is alot better. But by now she is so busy (Becuase she is the hottest girl there) I never get time to dance with her, and it isn't that big of a deal, I mean I wasn't setting my schedule up for the entire day looking forward to getitng a lap dance from her if you get where I am going.

So a couple of months past, and she eventually slides me her phone number and tells me to call her when I am coming up there to make sure she is at work (mind you I haven't spent all of 60 bucks on her in 5 months, besides drinks). She gets my number. I have her number but I never harass her.

She eventually calls me one night, out of the freakin blue and just starts to talk. I mean, I was up and I didn't mind too much, but it was akward to say the least. She asks me to come up there so she can talk to me in person, and at the time I was living 5 mintues away, and ovbiously I wasn't that busy so I did. We had drinks, kept talking. She was telling me about her BF who at the time she had just broken up with and he didn't have a job, blah blah blah blah.

NOw, I used to actually **** her friend who works there, which is a sideplot.. well before I met this girl. So she asks me does she think I look better than her friend, to which of course I didn't give a straight answer either way (she does) and just "buying" questions in general.. what do I like to do for fun.. turns out we have a hell of alot in common.

So one day I come in and we are talking and I mention bowling and she says "hey I can bowl, you are talking me on a date next week to go bowling". my response was "I am? I am glad someone told me". By now I realize there is some attraction there.. she kisses on me alot and sits in my lap, we talk all the time, call each other outside of the club, and I really don't spend alot of money on her, if any. So by now I know I have her, so I reel her in a l ittle more.. " babe, I can't do that, I used to mess around with your friend, plus you might make some of the other dancers up here jealous that we are going out on a date" and she starts defending herself saying her friend has a BF now and **** the other women, blah blah blah.. so I agree to take her out for a date, and it was fun.. just as hot outside of the club.

The only downpart to the whole ordeal is, that was my last week in Arkansas.. I still have a place there but I am down here, and although she is cool, no girl is worth moving half way across the country for. we still communicate, and I will be back in town in a couple of weeks, i will see what happens.

The big thing about dancers is you have to, I mean, HAVE to establish some type of positive rapport with them. You couldn't imagine the jerks, *******s, rapists, nutjobs that come in that place. Alot of times a dancer will be attracted to you but is literarly scared to do anything outside the club becuase they don't know you. I wasn't an evferyday regular, but I went in enough for the girls, pretty much all of them, to feel comfortable around me. they know what I did, they know that whenever they wanted free drinks they could come and sit with me and chill, and they knew I was a good tipper. A handful of them had my phone number and talked to me from time to time. Besides here, I got a BJ from one after work one night, took the girl I ****ed out to eat (I ****ed her about 3 years ago) and went on this date, and had another opprotunity with another one but she was a coke head and that's something I don't get down with.

 

[backbreaker]

For sh1tz and giggles I tried to find the major difference between strippers and "other women" and all I could come up with was that strippers get paid for undressing in front of multiple people. Other than payment and the amount of men watching at once, I couldn't think of anything that separated them from any other HB that guys wanted to bed. Any comments?

the thing I found more than anything is that after a while, their preception of reality is warped.

I mean, can you blame most of them. They basically live in an extreme sexual envrioment... they get paid basically to party, and they see literarly thousdands of people within a year that they know would love to sleep with them, and would probably pay for it.

 

[everywomanshero]

This question assumes that strippers are more difficult to seduce than other women. This has not been my experience. I've seduced several by accident, some of them were on regular Internet dating sites. I didn't even know they were strippers in all cases right off the bat.

The best way to PU strippers in my experience is to simply make contact with lots of women in general, some of which will turn out tobe strippers or ex-strippers.

In strip clubs it's harder sometimes, some suggestions:
When she asks for a tip, instead tell her to give you a dollar.
Then say, if I can make this dollar float, can I keep it?
Do the floating dollar thing with string behind ear or whatever one you have.
Now, you can proceed and she will be intrigued.

This gets their attention and they may bring other strippers over. It does not in any way help you meet them outside of the club unless you do something compelling beyond this. The strippers also sometimes get yelled at for letting guys walk them to their cars, and spending too much time at one table, they have to pay to work there so they need to make $$$ etc. I am not an expert on this, and I think Mystery had a whole workshop on it. I'd suggest taking it if you really want to PU them inside the strip clubs and it's even still available.

 

[DarkLight]

A stripper tried to pick me up, in a strip club once. (lol, no no... read on)

No big deal... but the thing of value, was how it happened, and why.

I happened to be high as fvck! So rather than just pounding drinks, getting lap-dances, spitting game to every ch!ck that walked by, like every1 esle in there... I was on a different vibe. Leaning back, chilling, quiet, cool... not even tripping on b!tches like fvck toys. Just sort of mackin it, and enjoying their beauty, etc... in between BS'ing w. my homey. Whether I was there or not, didn't even matter really. And they felt that.

Anyways... I get to rapping w. one of the strippers. And it was totally on a cool level. It wasn't colored by sexualness at all. I remember we got into some conversation about T.V. shows, and sh!t. Total rapport sh!t. Just friends talking. She was no longer this dancing fly wh0re... she was just this chick, a girl... and we were hitting it off, having a great conversation. There was no "Mmm! Fvck ya baby!" in the back of my mind... cause, like I said... I was high as fvck, and just enjoying the rap w. her.

Anyways... long story short. She was totally wow'ed by me. Later giving me her number, telling me to call.

-Didn't get around to it, cause it was in another city far from me... and whatever. lol

Point is........... the dynamic.
I was totally opposite from most all the cats in there. I wasn't trying to spit game, so I could fvck her that night. Wasn't treating her like a cheap *****. Wasn't trying to get a lapdance. Wasn't OGLING every curve that passed me, etc.

Was just straight up chillin. High as FVCK.
And relating to her on an entirely different level.
........ and thats what attracted her.

So my advise is, peep what every1 else's manner is in there. And do the opposite. Be uniquely different from the masses of other men, they hustle daily. And you'll no doubt stick out in her mind as different. Which she'll then have no choice to take note of. From there... keep it G' on a similar note... and play the game as you would any other woman.

Peace'

 

[MasterYoda]

Alright I am going to head to the new stripper joint they just built which is like 20 mins walk from my apartment. I will go on saturday and try some tricks and see if it works. I doubt it but I will try.

 

[backbreaker]

first mistake.. never go on the weekends, always go on weekdays. They are slower and have more time to spend with you

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

the thing I found more than anything is that after a while, their preception of reality is warped.

I mean, can you blame most of them. They basically live in an extreme sexual envrioment... they get paid basically to party, and they see literarly thousdands of people within a year that they know would love to sleep with them, and would probably pay for it.

How sexual is it really? Guys pay but they don't get laid. Now compare that to "other women," if they are HBs they get hit on and know that guys would love to sleep with them AND would probably pay for it. These same women would possibly just wear clothes to increase their attractiveness instead of undressing. These are the women who possibly spend weekends at bars and clubs having guys wait in line to buy them a drink and maybe even give them expensive gifts to win their affection. I'm still not seeing a substantial difference.

 

[everywomanshero]

Alright I am going to head to the new stripper joint they just built which is like 20 mins walk from my apartment. I will go on saturday and try some tricks and see if it works. I doubt it but I will try.

If you go in there *with some tricks* and assuming it won't work: I can save you some time, nothing is ever going to work with that attitude.

First, you have to believe it's going to work or the whole thing is pretty much doomed. At least be neutral and optimistic.

Second, the "tricks" don't do anything except get her to stick around for 5 minutes. If you don't back that up with anything else, then she's out of there in 5 minutes or less unless you whip out the cash.

Third, even if you get 3-4 strippers surrounding you and all seems to be going well (my friend used to do this one a week) it doesn't mean you have the right connection for laying them. As far as I know my friend who was awesome at getting them on his lap, getting them to give HIM tips for perfmoning the floating-dollar trip, and and got working #s from them never laid one that way.

What I do know is that:
1) Never sit in pervert alley (front row)
2) This is one time you should have a crew to roll with, as loners in SCs are married to UGs or loners.
3) Never pay them any tips, if anything, make them give *you* tips for performing.
4) be a reasonably cool looking guy.
5) Have something intriguing about you.
6) Be a famous persom (LOL)
7) Be insanely good looking and get tips from the ladies yourself (LOL)
8) Have something better to do than be in a strip club on a Saturday night.
9) Take Mystery's stripper workshop and find out what he knows.
10) Just pick them up online and in other places like any other girl (this is what I did). You should be having contact with so many different women that you run into strippers as a matter of chance anyway during the DJbootcamp/Newbie mission/whatever you use to get started.

So in summary, the floating dollar trick (use it exactly as I described) if done correctly gets you 5 minutes with her and some social proof and she will possible bring over other dancers or other dancers will come to see what's going on. That's all it does, the rest is up to you and what you have going for you otherwise.

 

[backbreaker]

If you go in there *with some tricks* and assuming it won't work: I can save you some time, nothing is ever going to work with that attitude.

First, you have to believe it's going to work or the whole thing is pretty much doomed. At least be neutral and optimistic.

Second, the "tricks" don't do anything except get her to stick around for 5 minutes. If you don't back that up with anything else, then she's out of there in 5 minutes or less unless you whip out the cash.

Third, even if you get 3-4 strippers surrounding you and all seems to be going well (my friend used to do this one a week) it doesn't mean you have the right connection for laying them. As far as I know my friend who was awesome at getting them on his lap, getting them to give HIM tips for perfmoning the floating-dollar trip, and and got working #s from them never laid one that way.

What I do know is that:
1) Never sit in pervert alley (front row)
2) This is one time you should have a crew to roll with, as loners in SCs are married to UGs or loners.
3) Never pay them any tips, if anything, make them give *you* tips for performing.
4) be a reasonably cool looking guy.
5) Have something intriguing about you.
6) Be a famous persom (LOL)
7) Be insanely good looking and get tips from the ladies yourself (LOL)
8) Have something better to do than be in a strip club on a Saturday night.
9) Take Mystery's stripper workshop and find out what he knows.
10) Just pick them up online and in other places like any other girl (this is what I did). You should be having contact with so many different women that you run into strippers as a matter of chance anyway during the DJbootcamp/Newbie mission/whatever you use to get started.

So in summary, the floating dollar trick (use it exactly as I described) if done correctly gets you 5 minutes with her and some social proof and she will possible bring over other dancers or other dancers will come to see what's going on. That's all it does, the rest is up to you and what you have going for you otherwise.

WRONG

so wrong it's pathetic.


where to start.

nothing wrong with sitting on the front row. Just make sure you plan on tipping if you do. The club I go to often doesn't have a tip rail, there are just seats that happen to be closer than others. My "reserved seat" is on the opposite side of the enterence, right smack dab in front of the first stage.. about 2 feet away.

I never go anywhere with friends anymore. it's pointless. Let alone SC's.. WHY? if you want any real success you are going to have to make some repeat visits, not to blow money but to build rapport.. are your friends available all of thoose nights? What if she is really into one of your friends and not you? Frankly, I don't like my friends knowing what I do 24 x 7... not that I am asshmed, but I am grown, just like they are.. I'm just wired like that.

The third tip might be the absolute worst tip I have ever heard in regards to strip clubs.

Let me get this straight. You want to **** this beautiful woman, yet you dont' even respect her enough to give her a damn dollar for showing you her tits? You are the guy that all of the dancers go back to the dressing room and laugh at.

You don't have to be extravgant but show some class.. if that's possible in a SC, but you get the point.

If a woman is kind enough to show you her tits, and you like what you see, show her you appricate it. THIS IS HOW SHE EARNS A FREAKING LIVING, don't treat it like a damn game. How would you feel if you were on stage and you pulled your **** out and everyone just looked at you like you were crazy. I have a rule of thumb.. if I am close to the stage and I am not talking to any dancer at my table, I will tip whoever is on stage a dollar (at least, out of respect). I might spend 30 or so bucks anight from that, because usually I am talking to a dancer who is sitting with me.

If you can't freaking TIP you can forget meeting her outside the club. And no tipping doesn't show you are a Wuss, it shows you respect her profession and respect her. I have no problem tipping someone and telling them straight out I am not getting a dance, I am just tipping the stage.


Never go on weekends.. unless it's like a Bday or some ****. Go to real clubs on weekends. Weeknights hit SC's.

Building rapport.. I can't preach it enough. You have to show her that you understand what she does and respects it, but at the same time you are not any old AFC that walks in the place. The girl I ended up going on a date with I tipped her (nicely) everytime I saw her on stage.. and everytime she came over and asked for a dance, I passed. She knew I could afford the dance, I got a dance from damn near everyone else there, I was just being selective. I tipped her for putting on a good show.

YOu really want to get some attention? Everytime I am in there, all the dancers that know me know they can sit with me and drink whatever the **** they want, no questions asked, on me. If I am there for 2-3 hours, 75% of the time I am sitting with a dancer. I might spend 100-150 in drinks for myself and girls, and won't get one dance, and have a GREAT time. You then become the guy the dancers gravitate around when things are slow, whenever they want a drink, etc. ONe night I came in, and I didn't take two steps in and Christina (paris) grabbed me and said "you are the guy I needed to see.. we need to get ****ed up", and off we went to the VIP room, on HER, I just paid for drinks. **** like that takes rapport, not somethig that can be done in one night.

 

[rrrrr]

The only thing I ever did was get a girl's number at a strip club.
I can tell you I didn't act sexual in any way, didn't ask about her boobs, etc. I just sat there and pretty much acted like she were dressed.

We had a short conversation and she told me her "real" name... and she gave me her phone number. I called it a few days later and had a short conversation.

I wouldn't ask what her "real" name is, she just volunteered this info. I guess you can say i treated her like a human being, wasn't all excited when she complemented me, i was more like, whatever, or didn't acknowledge the complements.

Why the obsession of dating a stripper though? My uncle dated a stripper and had a kid by her, she was a nutjob, she was bad news, drugs, theives, everything, she was a bad element. I'm sure most are from what I hear. It would be stupid to do it to brag about it, and really that's what you want to do it for right? Because you can go to regular bars and meet just as attractive women who aren't nutjobs.

 

[Nighthawk]

I was doing two strippers last year. I had to block their numbers eventually.

My thoughts on HB9s/10s including strippers are here

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=946079#post946079

 

[MasterYoda]

Um Nighthawk, the damn link doesn't work bro.

 

[zerocelcius]

My stripper experience has been weird~!

One time I was in there with my best friend and he hung out with them. He was hitting two of em. And those two were mad at each other... girls never blame the guy.. it is great.

Anyway I was buying drinks for us, (this was before I had to DJ at a Club later) so I wasn't getting drunk but was feeling good. I never went to the stage, and never got a dance, but the whole night I was buying my friend dances and drinks (he was broke)!

We got up to go and the girls that were talking to us said bye and stuff (while the were doing their dances...lol) Than one of the girls I was Neg'n all night came running up with her number. Her friend's cell number actually. I told her I didn't call people ever but if she wanted to hang out later I was DJing. They showed up to the club (about 4 of them from that SC and two from another SC) We hung out and they bought shots for everyone and we lit the bar on fire...well the bartender who was drinking did...

After all was said and done I had to go (sun was up) and the girl that tried to give me her number asked for my card so I could DJ at her B-Day party. I gave her my card. We left.

Ten Minutes later she called and said meet her and her friend at her place. She said for $1000.00 They would rock my world. LOL Again I told her no and she got all mad and crazy!!

Silly Girl.