I've been reading a little about this kinda stuff on this site where a couple guys say having an upset/angry/scowling look on your face can tremendously affect how other people percieve and interact with you. I'm sorta curious about this so does anyone have a site or something that disusses this sorta thing in detail or does anyone maybe have any personal experiences? Reason I ask is because my facial expression is basically always a scowl/upset even when I'm not and I get the feeling that its negatively impacting me socially. I read something about how relaxing the eyes can counteract this, but I'm not entirely sure what that means.
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How many women do you approach that have upset/angry/scowling look on their faces? Do you feel women would be receptive to guys that look like that?
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same here. Its very hard for me to smile and when I do Its a very concious effort.
I also feel silly smiling.
I also feel silly smiling.
very interesting post man
my experience: i don't have a nice smile (even though people sometimes say differently), in fact i get approached a lot more when i have a serious face... it's not upset, but it shows a bit of angst. nothing that i force, i didn't even notice that it was my usual expression until some girls pointed out that i look exactly like jim morrison when i'm serious
i think that if you look angry or upset, no girl will have the balls to approach you, expecially if you are a tall guy (i'm blessed with a short 5'9 from this point of view
) or somehow bigger than average
if you have a happy face, you either are with other people (therefore you won't get approached, since you're in a group) or you'll look stupid
i think a normal expression is the best... i'm not referring to your USUAL expression, since most guys have really ugly expressions when they're serious (like they tend to put their mouth forward or to keep it open), but a plain normal and relaxed expression
my experience: i don't have a nice smile (even though people sometimes say differently), in fact i get approached a lot more when i have a serious face... it's not upset, but it shows a bit of angst. nothing that i force, i didn't even notice that it was my usual expression until some girls pointed out that i look exactly like jim morrison when i'm serious
i think that if you look angry or upset, no girl will have the balls to approach you, expecially if you are a tall guy (i'm blessed with a short 5'9 from this point of view
) or somehow bigger than averageif you have a happy face, you either are with other people (therefore you won't get approached, since you're in a group) or you'll look stupid
i think a normal expression is the best... i'm not referring to your USUAL expression, since most guys have really ugly expressions when they're serious (like they tend to put their mouth forward or to keep it open), but a plain normal and relaxed expression
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I know it may seem easier said than done, but you guys have to get over your insecurities and become more confident in your personal presentation. It may not seem natural but therein is the reason why smiling is very powerful; not everyone can do it effortlessly and those who can come off as very comfortable in their surrounding AND confident in themselves.
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This is a good thread indeed. I have thought about the question you raised. Naturally, it would seem women would be receptive to a smile than a frown. I kind of have the same problem, not that I am insecure with my smile, I just do not smile enough and you know it probably hurts more than helps. I hate having my picture taken because what may be a good smile... to me doesn't seem that way. It seems like it is forced. With that being said... If I could smile at women and not consciously think about it I would be better off. Or smile like when I hear something funny.
Just today a fairly cute girl gave me a nice smile, but I didn't smile back. Only because I really couldn't tell her age. Which is unusual for me because I am usually good with peoples ages. She looked maybe 17 or possibly 18. That is reaaly too young for me. I guess I should have been nicer and smiled.
Just today a fairly cute girl gave me a nice smile, but I didn't smile back. Only because I really couldn't tell her age. Which is unusual for me because I am usually good with peoples ages. She looked maybe 17 or possibly 18. That is reaaly too young for me. I guess I should have been nicer and smiled.
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When you give a real smile, the eyes actually "smile" with it, making them much more beautiful.
Of course there's more, but simply being relaxed will relax muscles around your eyes and make eye contact a much different experience for the lady.
Of course there's more, but simply being relaxed will relax muscles around your eyes and make eye contact a much different experience for the lady.
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I have gotten laid just by having the puppy eyes expression... I am NOT B.S.ing.
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Ok, I'll give you something serious (even though that did happen).BlahUgh said:
Anyway, I used to have this same problem, always with a scowl. But then I learned to relax my eye muscles, close your eyes, and then make yourself calm down.
By the way, I meditated for a period of time, and people noticed I had a certain glow. However, I stopped meditating because I'm too lazy, too busy posting on this awesome forum.
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interesting thread....some people say i'm a 7 out of 10 in looks but consider me unaproachable because they say i look sad or out of it all the time when i'm not...interesting
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It seems like my default facial expression is sadness, I don't know why.KingBeef said:
Interesting thread indeed. I remember I was at a club on St. Patrick's day and I was standing around watching some people play pool. Out of nowhere, this girl comes up beside me, puts her hand on my shoulder and says, "it's ok, you can smile..." That hit me....
So, I went to another club, but this time I purposely put on a smile; more like a smirk...I got an interesting response from people this time. There was a girl on the dance floor who caught my eye and I just sat there with a silly smile, looking at her. She motioned for me to come over to her....but I got shy and turned around.
As someone else said, your eyes tend to "smile" with you. I noticed this when I would smile, cover up my mouth and look in the mirror. The difference is pretty noticeable.
So, I went to another club, but this time I purposely put on a smile; more like a smirk...I got an interesting response from people this time. There was a girl on the dance floor who caught my eye and I just sat there with a silly smile, looking at her. She motioned for me to come over to her....but I got shy and turned around.
As someone else said, your eyes tend to "smile" with you. I noticed this when I would smile, cover up my mouth and look in the mirror. The difference is pretty noticeable.