"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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How much conversation before sex ?

SuperChillies

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this is in the context of a 1 night stand,

Lets say your at a bar and your sitting talking to this chick about anything and everything...

how much do you have to talk to her until she will go with you to get "get breakfast' aka have sex with you that night ?

I mean talk to her about her HOT TOPICS that really interest her...

But what do you think matters, like 20 minutes, 1 hours, all night 3 hours ..

or there is no time limit until she feels completely in trust/ close to you ...


what do you say experts ?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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jamescr73

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ive had 1 ons a few years back, and i met her at a bar, probably 20 mins of convo, got her number. Bar closed, we went to an after party. Hung out there for an hour and a half or so, then went to my house. Its not hard to close in less than 2 hours, just wear a rubber :up:
 

DonJoseCantosie

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Good advice, yea...i bet its from 15-20 min. Sounds about right.
 

Distant Light

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Basically its all about speeding up the whole pickup. Instead of stretching out all this vibing, rapport and stuff. Just keep pumping buying temperature and conveying your personality. If you keep at it for the whole night you could pull them the same night. Only problem is Logistics. You have to get her out of there without losing her. Any small mess up to move her from club to sex location can cause the whole set to end.

I wouldn't really time how much conversation is needed because its not even about the conversation that gets the girl. The thing is you'll just have to do the pickup faster than usual. Kino from the start. Go in for the kiss quickly. Move her around, escalate, move around, attract, attract. (You get the point) When she is all pumpped up start moving closer and closer towards the sex location while still escalating.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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