How most of you are wasting your time.

[Good Gao]

I occasionally come on here and I have to say, the vast majority of you are wasting your time. You came on here hoping to get better with women whether it is through getting an LTR or getting laid more.

But you're not even honest with yourself about it, which is why you waste your time.

Want to know the absolute worst guys on here?

The ones who go around claiming "man there is so much more to life than women and sex, I am opting out of that sh-t". You know the ones who claim to go on this "self-improvement" or so called "enlightenment" journey that doesn't involve women or sexual relationships? The man version of Eat Pray Love.

One problem, you're on a don juan forum dedicated to helping men get better with women, so you can't even practice what you preach.

You epitomize the guy who wastes his time as well as everyone else's, especially when you go around trying to stop other men on here from improving with women. Talk about crabs in a bucket!

Now lets get to the guys who do talk about women and dating.

Talking about how messed up the current dating market is, how evil women are, how horrible society is, how easy they have it, and how tough it is to be a man? Waste of time.

Because NONE of this actually produces advice on bettering your life!

Crying about how evil women are, how messed up society is, and how life is so unfair is a complete waste of time. Posting some depressing article about things women do or all of the horrors of modern life, complete waste of time.

I can understand if it is used as a precaution or warning but to dedicated pages of posts to this sort of stuff? A waste of time!

Because unless any of this actually offers advice about what can be done, it is a waste of time.

Same with the race whining.

Advice on where to move and how to game as a guy of a certain race? Good discussion.

Countless hours spent whining about how easy white guys have it? Waste of time.

And time never comes back.

Five years from now you will look back and really think about how you could have better spent your time and realize how much of it was wasted crying about how unfair life is. It could have been spent finding ways to improve your situation and taking the proper action.

 

[MrJack]

Countless hours spent whining about how easy white guys have it? Waste of time

This is what I mostly don't get. I know plenty of dudes of other races (Mexican, Black, Indian, Asian) that do just fine with the ladies. They can get themselves that "ever so elusive blonde white chick" with no problems.

Who the f*ck cares what race you are that literally means nothing!

Their SMV, style, and game is what gets them the type of women THAT THEY WANT.

Race has nothing to do with it and I feel bad for anyone who is stuck in the mindset that it does matter.

 

[Desdinova]

Want to know the absolute worst guys on here?

The ones who go around claiming "man there is so much more to life than women and sex, I am opting out of that sh-t". You know the ones who claim to go on this "self-improvement" or so called "enlightenment" journey that doesn't involve women or sexual relationships?

I agree with this. A lot of guy will say "stop chasing women and focus on yourself". You CAN do both at the same time. In fact, I view both as the same. Becoming better with women is self-improvement. Also, self-improvement will help you become better with women. The only time you really need a break from women is when they're starting to piss you off as a whole.

Crying about how evil women are, how messed up society is, and how life is so unfair is a complete waste of time. Posting some depressing article about things women do or all of the horrors of modern life, complete waste of time.

I can understand if it is used as a precaution or warning but to dedicated pages of posts to this sort of stuff? A waste of time!

Because unless any of this actually offers advice about what can be done, it is a waste of time.

Here's where I'm a bit different. For those who are focused on improving their lives, this is a necessary evil. I believe that this information is worthwhile to post and discuss. If we aren't aware of it, then we can't work with it and possibly use it to our advantage. For those who like to get laid by lots of random women, it can work to their advantage. For those who want a LTR, it poses a real challenge. Finding ways to wade through the garbage aren't discussed on here enough. I try to focus on that part of it, and identify the types of women who are WORTH getting into a relationship with. They aren't common, but they do exist.

 

[Good Gao]

This is what I mostly don't get. I know plenty of dudes of other races (Mexican, Black, Indian, Asian) that do just fine with the ladies. They can get themselves that "ever so elusive blonde white chick" with no problems.

Who the f*ck cares what race you are that literally means nothing!

Their SMV, style, and game is what gets them the type of women THAT THEY WANT.

Race has nothing to do with it and I feel bad for anyone who is stuck in the mindset that it does matter.

Here are my thoughts on ethnic guys getting hot blondes.

First off, black guys have it easy, that is just the truth. Years of media kissing their a$$ and attempting to show them as cool has made it possible for them to get hot blondes due to that status alone. Hot blondes are shallow and tend to view minorities as a stereotype, not as individuals.

As for other minority groups, it's all in the location.

I would not recommend trying to game hot blondes as an ethnic guy in Northern California, racist Arizona (where they hate brown skinned foreign minorities), and Southern California.

Now that being said, I have seen it done, but in some parts of the country it is impossible.

 

[BeExcellent]

My thoughts (as a hot blonde former sorority girl) are that people have individual tastes and those tastes drive who they select to date.

You cannot paint all hot white blondes any one way for example just as I can't paint all (insert descriptions here) in any one way. People are individuals.

I personally always preferred tall/dark/handsome. I prefer men who have a swarthy look, best described as Mediterranean. I think South American & Spanish/Italian guys are hot. Ditto Persian guys & Turkish guys.

People date based on their preferences.

I recall a lover of mine from years ago. He was a Persian Jewish medical professional in NYC. His family lived in LA and had fled Iran in the 70s. His mother was incredibly stressed out that he didn't like Persian Jewish girls & expressed no interest in getting married, ever. He liked blondes & red heads. That's what he found exotic.

Trust me he had no problems finding women of his preferences to date him. He is smart, accomplished, handsome, stylish, sexy & direct. He was red pill 20 years ago.

Be the best man you can. Be social and put yourself out there. You'll meet women who like your look. They are out there. Just keep working on yourself & widening your appeal as a man.

 

[Trump]

I personally always preferred tall/dark/handsome.

I recall a lover of mine from years ago. He was a Persian Jewish medical professional in NYC. His family lived in LA and had fled Iran in the 70s. His mother was incredibly stressed out that he didn't like Persian Jewish girls & expressed no interest in getting married, ever. He liked blondes & red heads. That's what he found exotic.

Trust me he had no problems finding women of his preferences to date him. He is smart, accomplished, handsome, stylish, sexy & direct. He was red pill 20 years ago.

If he was so good, why did you break up with him?

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I agree with this. A lot of guy will say "stop chasing women and focus on yourself". You CAN do both at the same time. In fact, I view both as the same. Becoming better with women is self-improvement. Also, self-improvement will help you become better with women. The only time you really need a break from women is when they're starting to piss you off as a whole.
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So do I. It is not an 'either/ or' proposition - chase women, or give up on them.

Rather, we get better with women [and attract better women] whilst we better ourselves. This more practical way of thinking, reflects the old idea that man is a social animal. All binary ways of thinking [the 'either/ or'] actually divide us from ourselves.

 

[RangerMIke]

It's not a waste of time reading the forum, unless that is all you are doing. I spend time here to offer advice and reinforce truth. I live in a country (The USA) where we are literally drowned by absolute BS on female nature and relationship stupidity. Spending a few minutes a day reminds me of reality and that there are others that are not fooled my modern western culture.

As long as you are making steps to self improvement, taking care of our professional life, and at at least trying to make dates with chicks, then spending time here isn;t a waste of time.

 

[BeExcellent]

If he was so good, why did you break up with him?

Several reasons. He was in NYC and I was in TX for one thing (although we would both travel to see each other).

But the main reason was he had no intention of getting married. I knew I wanted a husband/family eventually so continuing to see him was counter to my goals at the time.

 

[Trump]

But the main reason was he had no intention of getting married. I knew I wanted a husband/family eventually so continuing to see him was counter to my goals at the time.

There you go, all women care about is the mans USE. Your love, your affection, your sex, meant nothing if he didn't fit your AGENDA, YOUR GOALS, YOUR USE.

Don't mean to scapegoat, but it shows love and affection mean nothing if the man has no use for the women.

 

[Solomon]

Great thread

 

[BeExcellent]

There you go, all women care about is the mans USE. Your love, your affection, your sex, meant nothing if he didn't fit your AGENDA, YOUR GOALS, YOUR USE.

Don't mean to scapegoat, but it shows love and affection mean nothing if the man has no use for the women.

Well duh.

Newsflash boys: I didn't fit his long term agenda either. He disclosed this up front.

You have a rather sophomoric view of things.

Love & affection & sex are not meaningless at all. He was an amazing lover. I appreciated that, enjoyed that & expected nothing more. The experience is a pleasant set of memories.

You are the one framing things up as strictly transactional. It wasn't like that at all. You are assigning your value judgements to a situation you do not understand & trying to put it into your narrative.

Let's be real here.

No woman who would like to find a mate is going to accept a man indefinitely who won't commit. That is often why plates break as you well know.

I knew better than to seek commitment from him. He was not the commitment type. Nevertheless he was sexy as hell and a blast to know. My life was enriched by the experience. We had a ball.