"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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how manyh women date guys with money?

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Jaylan said:
The women who have dated me, have done so for either my personality or for the physical attraction. Its not hard to pick out the gold digging sluts who are simply with you for the security.
Here we go again with the "if she cares I'm broke she's a ho" theory. Women are hard coded to seek resources the same way men are hard coded to seek youth and fertility. That maximizes the number of offspring who survive.

And how much do you want to bet I'm better looking than you are as well?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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bigneil said:
However, somewhere along the line women decided to act like men and to insist on the prettiest thing they can find.
That's a good point. Traditionally, and from an evolutionary standpoint, men did not have to be particularly good looking. This is why PUA gurus originally taught that looks didn't matter. Now days many SoSuavers claim that women care about looks more than men do.

I don't believe it has come to that point, but there does appear to have been a sea change. More men are expected to be "pretty" than ever before. Since women can now support themselves (often with the help of the government), they no longer need men for this. So now they want a Channing Tatum or a Ryan Gosling.

It's always struck me as a little funny that guys are okay with being appreciated for their looks (which are a God given gift), but not okay with being appreciated for their money (which is earned through hard work). Dieting and working out aside.
 

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Try dating women with money instead of broke chicks.

It feels amazing when they want to split the bill with you and aren't asking you to spoil them.
its kind of tough

they will spend all the made money on apartment rents/clothes/ restaurants etc

i haven't seen many girls who are rich
 
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Females who come from rich families end up rich. Can us DJ's optimize our game to pull women of means and substance, someone who wants to take care of us?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I certainly think it's possible to land a woman who will support you if that's what you want, I've seen it. You might have to compromise some in the looks department though.

That said, I prefer to maintain my independence and support myself.
 

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bigneil said:
Here we go again with the "if she cares I'm broke she's a ho" theory. Women are hard coded to seek resources the same way men are hard coded to seek youth and fertility. That maximizes the number of offspring who survive.

And how much do you want to bet I'm better looking than you are as well?
The guy with a penchant for strippers (well known to be gold digging skanks) should not be trying to school other men on who quality women will date.

I stand by my earlier post. There are good women out there who are unconcerned with money. I recently dated a woman such as this. She treated me well, didnt care that I wasnt rich...and really only cared about how we clicked. But I cut her lose because I didnt feel we matched up well enough for the long term.

She was a good woman though.

And whats with this quip about you thinking you are better looking than me? Im quite a bit younger than you, Ive got long hair, and a body that makes women wet. So lets not go there. You always go on and on, trying to say women (especially younger women) want older guys like you who have resources. You seem to have an ego issue and want to prove something to yourself. You always look for a way to put down guys who dont attract women the same way you do, and put down women who are drawn to men who are much different from you.

If you are so good looking and so desirable, why do you date women most guys here would consider low quality? You also always try to minimize the reality that women do date men because of how their personalities click or because how their bodies click in bed. Ive had women date me for the sex and/or because we got along so well. Even when I was in college or after college when I had trouble finding work, I still found good women to date.

When you are attractive and fun to be around, thats what happens. You can find women who dont put a premium on resources. And the reality is, I dont want to a date a woman who cares about what I own. Im not trying to find a wife. Im trying to have fun. I get women by being fun, honest, interesting, and fit.
 
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Jaylan said:
The guy with a penchant for strippers (well known to be gold digging skanks) should not be trying to school other men on who quality women will date.

I stand by my earlier post. There are good women out there who are unconcerned with money. I recently dated a woman such as this. She treated me well, didnt care that I wasnt rich...and really only cared about how we clicked. But I cut her lose because I didnt feel we matched up well enough for the long term.

She was a good woman though.

And whats with this quip about you thinking you are better looking than me? Im quite a bit younger than you, Ive got long hair, and a body that makes women wet. So lets not go there. You always go on and on, trying to say women (especially younger women) want older guys like you who have resources. You seem to have an ego issue and want to prove something to yourself. You always look for a way to put down guys who dont attract women the same way you do, and put down women who are drawn to men who are much different from you.

If you are so good looking and so desirable, why do you date women most guys here would consider low quality? You also always try to minimize the reality that women do date men because of how their personalities click or because how their bodies click in bed. Ive had women date me for the sex and/or because we got along so well. Even when I was in college or after college when I had trouble finding work, I still found good women to date.

When you are attractive and fun to be around, thats what happens. You can find women who dont put a premium on resources. And the reality is, I dont want to a date a woman who cares about what I own. Im not trying to find a wife. Im trying to have fun. I get women by being fun, honest, interesting, and fit.
I'm not agreeing with disrespecting BigNeil. But you are kind of right. Stripper game is different from overall women game, but a lot of stripper game is an advanced "hot girl" game. Because "hot girls" do the same games strippers do, they just aren't in a strip club.

Now quality women, and ones who aren't c0ck carouselling, who want to pay their way, take care of their man, etc it's a different game.

Keep in mind some strippers and "hot girls" do want to take care of their man, but they might be extracting resources from another to do so.

So BigNeil's comments are warranted here, because they transfer directly over to "hot girl" game...
 
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