"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How many times do you think you should ask a girl out before moving on?

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Kal0051

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Personally if she had a good reason she couldn't go I'd give her 3 chances or so (I'd just get bored after that).

Like for example, recently asked a girl out (did it over texting; ya I shouldn't do that, don't give me **** for it) and she couldn't go because she worked that day and had to work early the next day (like 5 am). But she was writing me walls of text so she has some interest, so I'll try again (probably the next time I see her).

Do any of you guys follow any personal rules regarding this? Was curious (and really bored :crazy: )
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It varies from situation to situation. If the reason sounds justifiable and she isnt just blowing u off try again, and if she does it the second time without making a counter offer leave it.
 
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I once asked a girl out 3 times.


I like to go bowling a lot,and I go to the same bowling alley twice a week.

Anyway,everytime I would go up there,I'd see a girl who worked up there over and over again. Although I was attracted to her,I didn't ask her out because I was already seeing someone at the time.

Then when my relationship ended,I think about...maybe 3 or 4 months later,I decided to appraoch her.

The first time I asked,she turned me down because she said she was already seeing someone.

I continued to go up there,and I'd see her from time to time,but I wouldn't speak to her. I might say,"Hey" or "What's up?",but that was it.

Then about 2 months later,I asked her out again,and she told me that she was still seeing the other person.

Then one day,maybe after another 2 months had passed.I was up there at the bowling alley bowling. I threw the ball,waited to see how many pins I'd hit,then when I turned around to walk back up to the ballreturn,I saw her staring at me.

She was just standing directly behind my area...just looking at me.

So when I noticed her staring at me,the first thing I said to myself was,"Uhh...why is she looking at me like that?". And to be honest,it kinda made me uncomfortable.

Now I had already asked her out twice,and she told me no both times,so I hadn't planned on asking her out again. So what did I do? I turned around,and continued bowling.

Then one time when I threw the ball,it got stuck,so I had to tell the people at the counter,and I would have to walk past her in order to tell them.
So I walked up to where she was,I yelled to the people at the counter that my ball was stuck,then I started talking to her. the convo went like this...

Me:Hey (her name),what's going on? So what you been up to?
her:Oh,nothin. Just workin hard. What are you up to?
ME:Just getting me some games in. So what's up with me and you? I mean,I haven't changed my mind yet,I still want to see you.
her:OK.

There,that's it. She said ok. Just flat out "ok". No "maybes",no "mights",no "I don't knows",just simply "OK". To be honest,I was shocked. I was just expecting her to say no again,only this time,I WASN'T GOING TO ASK HER OUT AGAIN.

It's kind of weird to get a direct answer from a woman. She just said flat out yes. When I called her,she answered the phone,and when I sat up the date,she showed up.

I agree with the other posters. You can ask a woman out twice,then call it quits,but I've gone beyond two times and been successful before.
 
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Ask her out as many times as you want until you believe you'll over do it by trying again.

This is important this next part so listen up.
If you ask out a girl and she gives some maybeish answer and then she takes you up on it later, chances are she's only saying yes because you are the only card on her table.

What this means is the next better option that comes up, she'll take it, she mightn't even dump you first.

How ever (most my posts contain how evers), by all means don't not engage knowing this.
Just don't get attached, when the girl is hesitant you are literally building the relationship on a flood plain.

Still, experience is experience man.
I'll say no to the prospect of my ideal relationship but I'll say yes to experience.

A DJ should date all women to get experience, not just your perfect 10.
Beggers can't be choosers.

Like we're here to learn, you don't need to reject all women that aren't 'the one'.
Funnily enough, I see a lot of virgins being very picky about their sexual partners here!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Accension said:
Ask her out as many times as you want until you believe you'll over do it by trying again.

This is important this next part so listen up.
If you ask out a girl and she gives some maybeish answer and then she takes you up on it later, chances are she's only saying yes because you are the only card on her table.

What this means is the next better option that comes up, she'll take it, she mightn't even dump you first.

How ever (most my posts contain how evers), by all means don't not engage knowing this.
Just don't get attached, when the girl is hesitant you are literally building the relationship on a flood plain.

Still, experience is experience man.
I'll say no to the prospect of my ideal relationship but I'll say yes to experience.

A DJ should date all women to get experience, not just your perfect 10.
Beggers can't be choosers.

Like we're here to learn, you don't need to reject all women that aren't 'the one'.
Funnily enough, I see a lot of virgins being very picky about their sexual partners here!
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lol, you make some good points. With this girl though there was no maybes, just no with a reasonable reason why (plus the wall of text).

I do like the idea that we should date all kinds of women just for the experience though. I've started to do this, before I would only ask out the girls I knew I might want a relationship with, only recently have I been asking out women for practice (that's what this particular girl is, since she's moving soon).
 
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