"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How many people next a girl if she doesnt return the first call?

big dizzle

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How many of you out there will automatically next a girl if she does not return your first call? If you do why?

I am curious to find out which guys will call a girl twice and why... maybe the first time she didn't have time for whatever reason and then flat out forgot. So why not call a second time?

The last chick that I called that didn't return my call I immediately deleted her number. Never heard from her again but I also saved myself some time and effort. Lets hear em fellas.

Dizz
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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id call her 1 time..then maybe again 2 or 3 days later..and leave a message with ur number..and if she doenst call back..dont bother
 

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I will call one time and one time only!

If I get kicked to voice mail I say what I called to say. "Hello Kim.. I just called to blah, blah, blah, anyway sorry I missed you. Call ME back at 555-####..

BAM! Over with.


If the girl is at all interested she WILL call back. If not then "NEXT" I also try to make sure I "run into them" where ever I met them the first time.

Most of the time I will get the 'Oh hello how are you doing" I reply with " Well look who it is.................. The Beautiful young lady who never returns phone calls.

Works I would say 80% of the time. The last thing any lady wants is a guy who calls them two times a day to get an answer in person. If you did your job you will get a call back!
 

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I agree on the she will call you back the first time if she is interested. But what about all those freak accidents like I lost your number, phone, my house burned down. I am not saying lame ass excuses that you don't believe but if this actually happened. Why not call just once more a few days later and leave your number. For sure I would scrap it if you don't get a call back the second time.


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There could be lots of good reasons why she may not call you right away. It all depends I guess on how much you like her and want to pursue a relationship with her.

Getting a # is obviously akin to getting your foot in the door, but she may not be crazy heads over heals for you and thus not remember to call when something comes up. You can always try again.

It seems to me that many people on this board have this feeling that if she isn't willing to bend over backwards to make you happy from the start she isn't worth your time at all.

I hate some of these general "rules" because people are different in so many ways and every relationship is unique. What if she lost her phone? (this happens more than you think). What if she ran out of minutes for the month? (I know I've sometimes refused to answer my phone towards the end of the month cause of the minute problems)

I say give her another call a few days later, but make that on a weekend so that in case it is the minutes running low problem she won't care about answering since most people get free weekends.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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