"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How many people here have actually read the bible and done the boot camp

Dandrufman

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It seems to me that alot of the idiotic questions we get are from people who are looking for a line or just advice. Alot of them are looking for situational advice, like what do i do NOW, and aren't really in it for the long haul. So i want a show of hands, who has read the bible and done, or is in the middle of doing, the boot camp.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Patrick124

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I've read the bible.
i think the bootcamps are just overdoing the whole deal. like... "make eye contact with 10 chicks." is one of the first assignments.
i make eye contact with liek 100 girls a day, its not something worth remembering.
 

biketrials

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I've read the Bible and am in the middle of the bootcamp almost done though.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Microphone Fiend

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Originally posted by Dandrufman
It seems to me that alot of the idiotic questions we get are from people who are looking for a line or just advice. Alot of them are looking for situational advice, like what do i do NOW, and aren't really in it for the long haul. So i want a show of hands, who has read the bible and done, or is in the middle of doing, the boot camp.
*raises hand*
week two right now

I read the bible in its entirity too i think...Thats a little excessive. Lots of information you dont need and just clutters your mind.

Very observative of you on the majority of the board. The only info I can give would be to do the bootcamp and get your ish right and hope that others find some kind of success asking for answers 24/7. The only way you can get better is through field experience and the BC gives you an outline to follow if you are a little lazy, or un sure of were to begin. The BC could be all you need to read, forget the bible...the archive has good posts too btw.
 

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minus bootcamp
 

cubed

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I considered trying the bootcamp, but after reading the summary, I decided not to. I don't want to bash the bootcamp, but it takes things way too slowly. While I can see how it may help someone who is petrified of speaking to people (then again, they may not get past week 1), most people don't have the patience or the discipline to do it.

A better question is 'Has anybody done the bootcamp?'. Because the bootcamp is (at least partially) redundant for most people, I think the DJ bootcamp could use an overhaul (or at least a second, concise) version. To be fair, the actual reading material in the bootcamp is excellent.

And yes, I've read the bible, but I'm not going to say I've read every single article.
 

Microphone Fiend

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my rebuttal to people not doin the bootcamp because it is slow is:

What are you doing day to day at the moment? Can you honestly tell me that you are improving week by week dramatically and learning new things about social interactions and busting down doors of fear?

Quit this BS about bein in HS too cuz there's a 15 yr old on week 2 right now. If anything its easier to get Hi's, conversations, and rejections...if you afraid...just say so, dont put down the system. I swear like 50% at best get to week two and 10% get to week 3 and 1-2 people get to week 4...but everyone SAYS its easy. back up your talk and enroll...Put up or shut up...plain and simple
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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