"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How many people do you know who got AIDS?

How many AIDS victims have you ever actually known?

  • 0

    Votes: 34 75.6%
  • 1

    Votes: 9 20.0%
  • 2 to 5 people

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • More than 5 people

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Total voters
    45

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Like terrorists, AIDS victims exist 99.99% in our media-driven imaginations. I honestly wonder how many of you have ever in your life even known someone who had AIDS.

For those who might, please state race of the victim(s) for demographics.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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bigneil said:
Like terrorists, AIDS victims exist 99.99% in our media-driven imaginations. I honestly wonder how many of you have ever in your life even known someone who had AIDS.

For those who might, please state race of the victim(s) for demographics.
I actually wrote a thesis on AIDS and the perception of AIDS in the media. AIDS is a huge problem, no doubt about that. And safe sex is always important anyway. But the thing is, as a heterosexual male in a western country, the chances of you contracting AIDS are very slim. First of all you'd have to have sex with a girl who has AIDS. And after that, you'd have to be quite unlucky to get it too. Males give it to females much easier than the other way around.

But if this is you asking whether you should be worried about having AIDS now your stripper dumped you and you realise that maybe, just maybe, she might be having sex with just about everyone on the planet, then yes, get yourself checked.
 

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one of my uncles on my mom's side of the family actually died of AIDs a while back.

i know a few people in AA who have had HIV for quite a while, over a decade going strong. magic johnson like. they go around and talk to people in rehab about safe sex and stuff.
 

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Now your stripper dumped you and you realise that...
Doesn't AlexDP wish. I simply walked away when she stopped chasing me. She'll be back and any experienced forum member knows it. Meanwhile I met a hot bartender.

Alex needs to get laid if he's still bringing up my past relationships.
 

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I know 1 guy who's got AIDS.

He's gay, white and in his 40's. He got it from his ex-"lover". Now the guy lives a super healthy lifestyle. He's got all sorts of herbs in his house, does a lot of cycling, drinks lots of juice with anti-oxidants. He even avoids EMF and doesn't use a cell-phone. He still smokes a few cigarettes a day, though they're roll-em-up ciggies isntead of the pre-rolled.

So it's impacted his entire life.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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bigneil said:
Doesn't AlexDP wish. I simply walked away when she stopped chasing me. She'll be back and any experienced forum member knows it. Meanwhile I met a hot bartender.

Alex needs to get laid if he's still bringing up my past relationships.
I need to get laid? Well, that's true. I got laid yesterday, but I need to get laid today as well. Fortunately for me though, I will.

You are not over this girl. Don't pretend to be. All your threads are about her. Grow up, face your pain and deal with it. You big baby.
 

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More than 5. Alot more than 5 actually. I grew up in a low-income African American community and have a couple gay friends and many gay acquaintances through them.

AIDS deserves our attention as long as citizens are dying from it but yes, it is more abundant in certain communities than others. But we are all at risk since everybody's fvcking eachother nowadays.
 

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One black gentleman.

bigneil said:
Doesn't AlexDP wish. I simply walked away when she stopped chasing me. She'll be back and any experienced forum member knows it. Meanwhile I met a hot bartender.
From a stripper to a bartender.
Lol bigneil, to my eye you have an unusual way of going about things, what with your habit of leaving old girlfriends hanging and bringing them back. Certainly very different from the way I do things. But God bless you brother if it works out for you.

When you see how different people live their lives, you can see that the same "one size fits all" pickup advice idea isn't going to work. It's always bugged me that PUA Theory seems to assume that everybody has the same problem with women (pedestalizing them, giving them too much attention, etc.). If I have a main fault with women, it's probably that I'm too indifferent.
 

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AlexDP said:
you should be worried about having AIDS ... she might be having sex with just about everyone on the planet
Men who talk this way are not succesful with women. This type of bitterness is a guy who dates BPD women (a synonym for low interest). I think AlexDP needs a stripper to cure him of his BPD ex, as my stripper cured me of my own.

Thanks Zekko. Ironically, I have a one-size fits all approach that worked with the bartender and (in October) several strippers (mine being the 3rd who gave me her number).

1) Dress sharp. We're in a depression.
2) Get the one you like to serve you.
3) Ask her name.
4) Ask how long she has worked there (I later found this is not a good line for strippers).
5) Read her body language.
6) Get her to ask your name (it doesn't always happen right away, sometimes they are distracted - maybe by their attraction to you).
7) Hope that she extends her hand and if so hold it firmly, as if you want to be able to save her if she falls from a cliff, but don't squeeze that hard.
8) Hold her hand extra long and make eye contact.
9) Express your romantic interest right away. Scare her off versus be scared.
10) Tip well. We're in a depression.
11) If you get her home, make her come the first chance you get. You'll have a friend for life. It's called Relationship Insurance.
 
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I know of a few guys in this very forum with AIDS.
Just kidding.

I don't think people with AIDS make it known to the whole world. I know if I had it I'd keep that sht to myself unless it was absolutely necessary to let the other person know.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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bigneil said:
Men who talk this way are not succesful with women. This type of bitterness is a guy who dates BPD women (a synonym for low interest). I think AlexDP needs a stripper to cure him of his BPD ex, as my stripper cured me of my own.
I don't need anyone to cure me of anything. I've been dating a girl for 8 months now and very happy with her. I don't know why you are projecting. She's a STRIPPER. You're not good with women, if you pick up a STRIPPER. Your STRIPPER didn't cure you of anything, she most likely was BPD herself. You just replaced your lunatic with another one.

Think about it, bigneil. I am not the one creating threads. I wasn't the one constantly boasting about his girlfriend. Things were going great huh? You knew what you were doing huh? She was all over you huh? You screwed up, mate. And you know you did. Stop making excuses for yourself. This is about you, it's not about me.

You're dating bartenders and strippers. That's the bottom of the lote, mate. It's just sad.
 

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I never met or known anyone with AIDS or HIV. Unless they kept it a secret. Actually, I heard a rumor about a girl in high school who had herpes of the mouth from sucking to much... But my answer is No.
 

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Is this topic about AIDs or an old married couple arguing?
 

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Here is the thing I can't stand. This is why I hate Western cultures....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgzdp6zOnyI
A bunch of ugly Irish drunks protesting the "anti-perversion" laws in Russia. Do you see Russians protesting the perversion that goes on in the West? NO. No wonder the freedom loving world is supporting Russia and Syria these days. Just leave people alone!! Russia is not the West. Deal with it.

How many do I know with AIDS? Probably every single guy who works at Starbucks or the high-end department stores I shop at. F--- you guys! Now I am going to have to wash my hands before and after visiting any of those places.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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People today live with HIV as more of a chronic condition, not a terminal disease, if it is caught early and treated properly. Thanks to the advances in medication (HAART) during the mid 90's, HIV + patients have a life expectancy only several months shorter than a comparable healthy adult. Although the chances of the virus spreading through heterosexual intercourse is hardly worth mentioning, there's something like 44,000 new cases reported in the United States each year, so its nothing to sneeze at. Medication is ungodly expensive and the side effects can drastically effect quality of life.

I don't know anyone personally with the virus, but I can't imagine many would be quick to volunteer their positive status.
 

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People today live with HIV as more of a chronic condition, not a terminal disease, if it is caught early and treated properly. Thanks to the advances in medication (HAART) during the mid 90's, HIV + patients have a life expectancy only several months shorter than a comparable healthy adult. Although the chances of the virus spreading through heterosexual intercourse is hardly worth mentioning, there's something like 44,000 new cases reported in the United States each year, so its nothing to sneeze at. Medication is ungodly expensive and the side effects can drastically effect quality of life.

I don't know anyone personally with the virus, but I can't imagine many would be quick to volunteer their positive status.
Exactly what I came in here to say. We've managed to get a hand on it so that it's not the epidemic it was in the late 80s and early 90s, but it's still out there.
 

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BigJimbo said:
How many do I know with AIDS? Probably every single guy who works at Starbucks or the high-end department stores I shop at. F--- you guys! Now I am going to have to wash my hands before and after visiting any of those places.
You do realize you're insane, right?
 

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I live in south Florida. And considering the huge gay scene on south beach I can say I don't know anyone with aids and I find that extremely odd. And I have worked in the porn industry for several years and still nothing. Sometimes I wonder if it's all BS. But of course I know it's not...
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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