"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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how many of u guys are in a LTR?

pyros

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Hi I was wondering, how many of you are in a happy LTR, and how is been your love/sex life.

Could we do a list this type:


Nick name:
Age:
# of LTR's:
duration of the LTR #1:
duration of the LTR #2:
duration of the LTR #n:
# of women you've slept with:
Are you in a LTR now: yes/no


I'll start:

Nick name: Pyros
Age: 26
# of LTR's: 2
duration of the LTR #1: 6 months.
duration of the LTR #2: 3 years.
# of women you've slept with: 2
Are you in a LTR now: no


P.S.
im saying this to understand better spinning plates theory.
Thank you:rock:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Eternal_water

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nick name: Eternal_water
age: 21
number of LTR's: 1
duration of LTR: 9/10 months
number of women slept with: 0
am I in an LTR now? no
 

Night-hawk

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Location
Canada
Nick name: Night-hawk
Age: 26
# of LTR's: 1
duration of the LTR #1: Over a year (23- 24)
duration of the LTR #2:
duration of the LTR #3:
# of women you've slept with: somewhere around 45+ (I was a late bloomer)
Are you in a LTR now: fak no
 
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GhengisT

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Location
SoCal
Nick name: GhengisT
Age: 24
# of LTR's: 2
Duration of LTR #1: 6 months (age 17)
Duration of LTR #2: 4 years (age 20-24)
# of women you've slept with: 6
Are you in an LTR now: no- studying the art of DJ & plate-spinning. Honing anti-AFC abilities
 

MM92

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Location
England
Nick name: MM92
Age: 19
# of LTR's: 3
duration of the LTR #1: just over 2 years, was around 14-16
duration of the LTR #2: just over a year, was 16-17
duration of the LTR #n: been around 4 months so far, 19-
# of women you've slept with: 10
Are you in a LTR now: yes
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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evansblue

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Nick name: evansblue
Age: 25
# of LTR's: 0
duration of the LTR #1: n/a
# of women you've slept with: 70 (ish)
Are you in a LTR now: no
 

European-DJ

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Location
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Nick name: European-Dj
Age: 19
# of LTR's: 2
duration of the LTR #1: 2.5 years
duration of the LTR #2: 8 months
# of women you've slept with: 14
Are you in a LTR now: no
 

Zutt

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Nick name: zutt
Age: 16
# of LTRs: 1
Duration of LTR: 3 months
# of women you have slept with: 1
Are you in à LTR now: no
 

Bible_Belt

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# of LTRs: six or so
Duration of LTR: 6 mo to 7 years
# of women you have slept with: dozen or so
Are you in a LTR now: yes
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Alex DeLarge

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Nickname: Alex DeLarge
Age: 22
# of LTRS: 0
# of women slept with: 2
In an LTR now? No
 

shizz702

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Nick name: shizz702
Age: 26
# of LTR's: 2
duration of the LTR #1: 1.5 years
duration of the LTR #2: 5 months and counting
# of women you've slept with: Around 20
In a LTR now? Yes
 

spartanfan

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Nick name: spartanfan
Age: 29
# of LTR's: 2
duration of the LTR #1: 1 year
duration of the LTR #2: 5 months
# of women you've slept with: 1 and fooled around with 7
In a LTR now? Hell No
 

bish0p

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Nick name: bish0p
Age: 31
# of LTR's: 2
duration of the LTR #1: 1 1\2 years
duration of the LTR #2: 2+ years
# of women you've slept with: Around 20
Are you in a LTR now: Yes
 

Sofomore

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Nick name: Sofomore
Age: 21
# of LTR's: 2
duration of the LTR #1: 1 yr.
duration of the LTR #2: 1.5 yrs
# of women you've slept with: 19
Are you in a LTR now: no
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Young Stallion

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Nick name: Young Stallion...not so young anymore.
Age: 30
# of LTR's:
duration of the LTR #1: 6 months
duration of the LTR #2: 1 month
duration of the LTR #n: 2 years
# of women you've slept with: 5
Are you in a LTR now: no

I have always constantly asked out women so I believe these are pretty bad stats.

Slept with first girl when I was 22 she was 29...this was during our 6 month relationship.
Slept with second girl when I was 23 she was 19...this was during our 1 month relationsip which apparently wasnt a relationship lol.
Slept with third girl when I was 24 she was 20....this was during our 2 year relationship
Slept with fourth girl when I as 28 she was 22......this wasnt a relationship.
Slept with fifth girl when I was 29 and she was 33...this wasnt a relationship.
 

SamTheHobit

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evansblue said:
Nick name: evansblue
Age: 25
# of LTR's: 0
duration of the LTR #1: n/a
# of women you've slept with: 70 (ish)
Are you in a LTR now: no
70ish women.. Tell me your secrets.
 

yuppaz

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Lol - this thread gives a clear indication on who to listen to and who to ignore advise from. It's the guys with little experience that seem to be the loudest and most opinionated.... trippy stuff.
 

switch

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nickname= switch
specialty= STR (short term relationship)
longest STR= 3 days
LTR is not my thing , i get bored way too soon...i just "use" and "dispose"
problem?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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