"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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how many hangout before trying to get it in lol

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Simple and quick question.

Lets say you just met a cool attractive girl. How many times do you hang out with her alone before you try to ****?


I met a girl about a week ago. We chilled at her place that same week but some of her roomates where there at her apartment, but I did get in alot of kino.

Second time we chilled this week at my place watch a movie and did a lot laughing. Again escalated the kino further, she was even more receptive this time. Even pulled me close to her during a real scary part of the movie lol.

So my plan is I am going to escalate the kino even further next time we chill ultimately try to have sex. Would this be too soon? How many times do you guys hang out with a very attractive woman before trying to have sex?
 

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smoovedude23 said:
So my plan is I am going to escalate the kino even further next time we chill ultimately try to have sex. Would this be too soon? How many times do you guys hang out with a very attractive woman before trying to have sex?
As Soon As Possible (without being pushy)
 

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If youve been isolated with her twice this fast already, than DEF the third time. Crank that swagger to full blast and youll have no issues.

Wait you havent even kissed her yet? Most likely are gonna have to make out with her for awhile to loosen her up then go for the heavy stuff later. And for Gods sake, do NOT wait till the end of the night to go for the kiss. Get that out of the way early, so that physically the next steps to take would be taking off her shirt, etc.
 

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Kiss her? I think trying to kiss her that soon would of been a deal breaker. Simply because it would make me come of as needy and desperate. Remember this is a very attractive women that gets compliments and attention from guys all the time. The type of girl that hates guys that act too thirsty for her. I have only been "isolated" with her one time, the first time we chilled her roomates where around. This is why im asking if our third time chilling together, and second actually being isolated alone with her too soon to try and bed her...
 

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smoovedude23 said:
Kiss her? I think trying to kiss her that soon would of been a deal breaker. Simply because it would make me come of as needy and desperate. Remember this is a very attractive women that gets compliments and attention from guys all the time. The type of girl that hates guys that act too thirsty for her. I have only been "isolated" with her one time, the first time we chilled her roomates where around. This is why im asking if our third time chilling together, and second actually being isolated alone with her too soon to try and bed her...
You do realize you're talking about her as if you have full conviction that you know what her type wants and what her type thinks and how her type will respond.

This is what the other guys did and it didn't work either.

Kiss her, escalate (as already mentioned) and take care of business. Be different than the other guys who guessed what her type is like.
 

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I see what your saying and I think your right about that.

But from what you saying I have done good so far with the subtle but intimate kino right and not being to pushy?? And the next time we chill is def the perfect time to try and go further?

I just dont want this to be situation where she says something like "I dont know you well enough yet" you know.
 

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"I just dont want this to be situation where she says something like "I dont know you well enough yet" you know."

Actually, if this will be the third time you're with her, then yes, if that's what she says, you want to hear it -- because then it's time to cut bait.

Third date you should absolutely be making out, lips locked together. End of story. If she doesn't want that from you she doesn't want you, period.
 

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DonJuanabe said:
"I just dont want this to be situation where she says something like "I dont know you well enough yet" you know."

Actually, if this will be the third time you're with her, then yes, if that's what she says, you want to hear it -- because then it's time to cut bait.

Third date you should absolutely be making out, lips locked together. End of story. If she doesn't want that from you she doesn't want you, period.
Really couldnt say it any better if I tried to. Seems like the OP is inexperienced and under-estimating the significance of her already being comfy enough to at LEAST be damn near alone with you 2x already. Ohh, you dont believe us when we say escalate and go for the kill? Fine, go ahead and shoot yourself in the foot by chillin with her 2-3x more, and doing nothing more than 'touching her with escalating kino'.
 

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smoovedude23 said:
Kiss her? I think trying to kiss her that soon would of been a deal breaker. Simply because it would make me come of as needy and desperate. Remember this is a very attractive women that gets compliments and attention from guys all the time. The type of girl that hates guys that act too thirsty for her. I have only been "isolated" with her one time, the first time we chilled her roomates where around. This is why im asking if our third time chilling together, and second actually being isolated alone with her too soon to try and bed her...
And to be completely honest with you, ANY and EVERY woman that I have successfully pursuaded and/or wanted to get back to my bed, has ALWAYS ended up in a hook up session. Maybe youre being too passive? One thing ive learned from my boys who are successful with women and just guys i hang with who get women in general; they all seem to have that killer instinct. Ive just know developed it because Ive realized that its all a mindset. If a woman is into you at all, then you MUST go for the kill.
 

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Thatfeel21 said:
Really couldnt say it any better if I tried to. Seems like the OP is inexperienced and under-estimating the significance of her already being comfy enough to at LEAST be damn near alone with you 2x already. Ohh, you dont believe us when we say escalate and go for the kill? Fine, go ahead and shoot yourself in the foot by chillin with her 2-3x more, and doing nothing more than 'touching her with escalating kino'.
And, a very likely thing that will happen is she'll feel that he's turned off for some reason and get really bad feelings and drop him....after all, guys are supposed to be going for punani and she's with a guy who's not so she'll often assume she must be unattractive to him.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

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