"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How long should you wait to call after first date

Weezy

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Trying to hook up a date with a chick. We hung out on Saturday Night, talked Sunday night. Is it cool to call her today and try to hookup a Saturday night date?

Also, should I try and just got for a lunch date, or go full blown Dinner with maybe something fun planned after?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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CarlitosWay

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I'd say plan something fun first.(e.g. ice skating, bowling/pool, something competitive is always fun:p) Then after depending on how things go maybe go for a bite to eat or a nice walk after in a scenic part of town. Always leave her wanting more:).

Also don't say "Try" to hook up. Say you "will" hook up! Trying is with a chance of failure brother....get that sh*T out of your vocab.

Call her up confidently and with lots of enthusiasm. Keep it short, sweet. Take control from the get go. Women lovvvvvve this. Trick for me is to think of a funny/cool story/memory that happened to me or some buddies. Gets me in a cheerful happy mood every time before I call.

You're sounding to predictable with the usual dinner/lunch stuff...that's k after you have started a nice relationship. Yet you say "maybe" plan something fun. No you WILL want to plan something fun if you want to set a great tone/attraction with her.
fu*k good luck, just get it done!
 

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You should try to get together before the weekend. Weekends are for meeting girls, not dating them. Try for tomorrow night.
 

Weezy

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Aight, cool. So I could say lets go bowling tomorrow night and that would be legit?
 

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Weezy said:
Aight, cool. So I could say lets go bowling tomorrow night and that would be legit?
yeah you could just be like "Hey what's up hun how are you yadda yadda yadda, I got something fun for us planned so and so day at 8 ish" and then if she asks just be like it's a surprise:)....lol dunno just create some excitement damnit.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Weezy

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Cool, and nobody has objections to the fact that we hung out as recently as Sunday, so it would basically be a 4 day turn around?
 

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Weezy said:
Cool, and nobody has objections to the fact that we hung out as recently as Sunday, so it would basically be a 4 day turn around?

Wow you are over-analyzing the death outta of this!!

Lets go back to your original question first.

"How long should you wait to call after the first date?"

The answer to that question is really subjective and based on a few things.

1) How well did the first date go?

2) Is she on your nutzzz or do you feel like your more into her?

3) Did you guys hook up on the first date?


Once you answer these questions you'll start to have a better gauge of when to call.

Bottom line though, if this girl is into you it won't matter when you call. Yeah you heard me right, it won't matter!

The 3 day rule or other bs you read here is a general guideline for big time AFC guys who generally turn into a flat out chump right after the meet the girl. But if your confident and she's into you, she'll be excited to hear from you. The key is to not turn into a wuss...


Secondly, NEVER EVER EVER, plan a date so far in advance!! If you call her today, try to set up a date within the next day or two. Calling on Tuesday for Saturday is too much so early on. Once you've banged her and you progess then the rules change a bit.

Furthermore as others have said, the weekends should be when you go out with your krew and meet more byatches.

And yes bowling is a great first date, because it keeps the focus on the game and takes the pressure off the situation for both of you, especially if your not a good conversationalist.


Bottom line: You need to read the Bible because I can already tell that your starting to go chump for this chick and once she senses that, she's gggggone!!





PIMP
 

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Pimp-sicle said:
Wow you are over-analyzing the death outta of this!!

True, just trying to get everything polished.

I'll call her tonight and ask for bowling... nah, demand it.
 

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Got the date.. Thanks for the kick in the nutz.
 

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Seriously chill bro. It doesn't matter when you call her; there's no 2-3 day rule.

Just give her a call when your LEVEL MINDED. Don't give her a call when you have those godiwannasex you emotions.

I've sworn by dating women during the week, and going out with buds on weekends. Weed out the women during the week and meet new women on the weekend. Otherwise you shut off the valve of women and are stuck with what you have.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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