"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How long do YOU wait to see a woman again after the first hangout/date?

How long after the first hangout/date do YOU see a woman?

  • About a week after the first hangout/date.

    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • About two weeks after the first hangout/date.

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • It depends on certain factor(s) I will describe below.

    Votes: 4 25.0%
  • I wait a different time I will describe below.

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • Total voters
    16

Masculinity

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In night/club game, as you may already know, escalation and kino are accelerated. However, usually girls that hang out at these places are not the best girls with whom to have LTR's. I'm now working on cold approaches wanting to meet a higher-quality girl. How long should you wait after a successful first date/hangout before you set up the second time you will hangout? Let's hear what you guys got!
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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st_99

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There are no rules, only guidlines. Your mindset is all that really matters, as long as you keep that prize mentality it kind of doesn't matter.

But to answer your question, 2,3,4 days or something like that.
 

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Usually I try to shoot for a week.. No matter how attracted I am to a girl. But usually I leave it up for the girl. I've had absolutely great first dates before, then had the girl texting me as I'm on my way home "You're so handsome blah blah I want to see you again as soon as possible". Then they suggest something maybe 2 or 3 days later.

Maybe this is where I'm screwing up. After doing this for a while they might think I have no life? haha
 

Htienvu

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I normally leave it a week to see them again, couple of text and a phone call in between to set up the next date.
 

shizz702

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It really depends. I've been in situations where it was a week later, and some where it was the next day.

Generally though I will wait a few days at least before seeing them again.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Masculinity

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Espi said:
For me, a week would be the MAXIMUM time I would hold off calling.

Generally, though, I'll wait a least 2 days--assuming she doesn't contact me first. And even if she does contact me, I'll be slow to commit. I want to create within her a sense of insecurity, i.e. make her feel like she has to work a little bit.
I usually wait until they make contact, which is an obvious "I'm interested in more." However, there are girls that won't contact you even if they're interested because they don't want to come off as "easy" or they're simply shy. How do you create the sense of security and make her work?



Alex DeLarge said:
Usually I try to shoot for a week.. No matter how attracted I am to a girl. But usually I leave it up for the girl. I've had absolutely great first dates before, then had the girl texting me as I'm on my way home "You're so handsome blah blah I want to see you again as soon as possible". Then they suggest something maybe 2 or 3 days later.
What if you haven't heard from them?

I met the girl I went out with in class and I see her twice a week. I kept it normal in class after our date. Now I'm debating on how I should make the second approach. A phone call should do or in person? She's was very touchy and playful in our date.
 

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A week is the ideal, although sometimes things are different and you end up seeing them the next day. It depends on a lot of variables.
 

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It tends to be about a week for me except in certain circumstances such as she is only gonna be in the area for a short time or if I live close to her or her work then whenever I have no one new to get ahold of then I give her a booty call.
 
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2-4 days if she doesn't contact first. But it depends. Sometimes longer. Sometimes I forget and never contact them.
 
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