"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How long do you wait to kiss her?

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That is after she blew some other guy.

My ex had blown some other guy in the parking lot an hour or so before we were supposed to have a ONS and be on our way. I kissed her while banging her brains out but I went limp shortly after as her breath smelled a little off. I know she did because she told me. She knows I don't care what she does as we aren't together anymore just hook up at times.

If you know a girl your meeting or suspect she blew some other guy how long do you wait before you kiss her?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Interesting topic. I would say make her suck down some mouth wash in front of you, like lots of it.
 

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Have you considered spit roasting her. This way you know exactly what she is doing with the other guy whilst you bang her. If she doesn't suck his ****, you can kiss her. Interesting post I admit. I had a laugh at going limp 'cause of bad breath.
 
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