"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How jealous do you guys get

Bobbles

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Hey

I basically posted this thread a while ago (a year or something), but there is a whole new crowd around here now and I am interested in your opinions.

Generally how jealous do you get of your girl. I mean if you are in a committed relationship.

Also ow bothered would you be if she were have to touch(erotically perhaps)/ kiss/ other intimate stuff, in a play. On the one hand in theory it is meaningless because it is choreographed and they are not doing it because they fancy each other.

On the other, isn't it the action that it is important. If an action is wrong in one circumstance (ie the bedroom) shouldn't it be wrong in another, ie the stage. Or would you make a real distinction between public and private intimacy.

The bottom line is of course that you should have some balls, stop being so insecure and not be too controlling, accept she isn't gonna get with this other guy so let her do her hobby (ie acting) without feeling smothered. But then what are the limits? Nude scenes, breast fondling? all of these things could come under the category of meaningless choreographed stage directions.

Nonetheless, what do you guys think?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Distant Light

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Well being that I prefer MLTRs I could care less what the girls do, because I am actually going around looking for more. An i know if I lose one I can go out again and look for more. I kinda what the lifestyle like that 1 PUA has, having like 8 girlfriends and seeing them once in awhile. If i caught them kissing some guy wouldn't matter because she missed me kissing the other girl in the same party 5 mins ago.

Only thing that would get me alittle out of state but wouldn't show it is if I am suppose to go over and fuvk her and maybe I have a pair of keys to her house and i see her getting plowed hard by some guy lol. My first reaction is most likely going to be laughing lol, but I would be kinda mad inside that i was suppose to fuvk and some guy is in there fuvking her so i basically wasted my time going to her house.
 

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i actually broke up with my most recent ex cuz in her words "jelousy is how you show you care." She would come to me daily with stories about how some guy hit on her or was looking at her with the intent being that I was supposed to get mad and jelous. It just seemed pathetic and in reality i take that kind of **** as a compliment so I didn't get bent out of shape over it.

As for your play example, it wouldn't bother me but honestly, i would keep an eye and ear open. Just see if notice that "spark" during the performance. But otherwise, just be suportive, maybe suggest you practice with her so she can "really explore those moves" on you. That way its a special thing she does with you and when she does it with the other actor it feels limper.

And in response to your question about when it goes to far well that is really up to you. If I became involved with a girl who i kno is into acting and nudity and that stuff i would think nothing of it but it would probably raise an eyebrow if it was new stuff for her. But again, nothing to get bent out of shape for unless your married.
 

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Thanks for your responces.

Hi Roe, why would it be more important to you if the stuff she was doing was new? Also why would it be more important to you if she was married? Are you saying you wouldn't mind as much now because you don't care for the girl as much as if you were married, or is it because you would expect more loyalty when married.

If you are in a committed LTR personally I would expect just as much loyalty (well almost) as in marriage. I thought you were initially saying though that the stuff in the play isn't (to you at least) a breach of loyalty at all. In which case why would it matter more if she was married.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Only one word for a gal who expects you to be jealous:

NEXT!
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Bonhomme said:
Only one word for a gal who expects you to be jealous:

NEXT!
Yeah, but it is interesting to find out why she wants you to get jealous. Definitely some baggage there with unpacked moldy towels.
 
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