“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The Comeback Kid

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There's this girl that I like and I figured we'd go on a double date with her two friends, who are bf-gf. If only it was that simple...

The "bf" likes the bowling idea and all we need is the girl I like's OK. I step up to the plate and talk to her...and she likes the idea, but her other "best friend" would be left in the dark and the girl wanted to bring her too ( I was thinking "WTF is this?" lol). Luckily, if this works, I do have a friend who knows them a bit that I can bring. Hopefully this is her idea of a "group date" or w/e because the most people I want in this is 6-8. She agreed to help me on this too (she better :trouble: )

The big question is how to do this so we end up in pairs of two (so it can be a guy to a girl of course) and the destination would be bowling. Me and the two other guys can drive (but not past 9pm - one more month till I get my full license) so my theory was to have a guy each pick up a girl, but I dunno if everyone would agree to that (I'm a good speaker - I can probably persuade for it) and then I'd have to somehow use the same pairs at the bowling place. But that's my idea - perhaps there are better.

The only reason it seems like I'm planning this is because I want to KNOW this will work (I learned this the hard way). It seems she will te in a relationship with a guy once she can get close to them and have fun - maybe this will accomplish that). SHe seems excited about this too, so that's good.

So the big question is how to get this bowling extravaganza to work. Any help is appreciated. I am new to all this, so you don't need to write "afc", "go read the bible" (I did and it's helping) or "chump" or anything like that. I jsut want at least decent advice on this.

Thanks. :up:
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Any help is appreciated...

The frustration I'm feeling from this comes from a real long story, I'll write up a summary of it if you want (it's a "saga" lol), but I don't know how important it really is to this post and it may be against DJ standards.

Nevertheless, I need help with this issue though, preferably by tomorrow morning (I won't be back on the CPU until like 4pm tomorrow after I check my E-Mails in the morning).
 

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well my only advice is that 6 might be ok like you said, but 8 people is pushing as I can garuantee what one of the couples will not be happy with each other at 8 people, but 6 might work. Also you might want to have something else set up to do with the bowling, bowling for more than 3 games, and maybe 2 gets pretty boring. So keep it fresh and dont overstay the date with the bowling, go do something else fun, even if its just getting something to eat,or the mall or something.
 

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Double dates will not get you anywhere you want to be. The chick asked to bring her friend because she DOESN'T LIKE YOU.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Originally posted by LikRetsam
Double dates will not get you anywhere you want to be. The chick asked to bring her friend because she DOESN'T LIKE YOU.
I've seen double dates work before (my friends were involved), so yes, they can work. Also, I'm dicovering that the girl has to know you a bit better before they like you, and something like this can start that.

Anyway, the other guy is tired from the track meet he had today and doesn't want to go, so I'll try think of something else...though not for this weekend. Hopefully, I can come up with something.
 

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personally, I'm not a fan of double or group dates, I'd rather be alone with the girl. But if that's how it's gona be, then that's how it's gona be. I think the main thing you should think about is not worrying about it so much, by worrying that it won't go right, you push yourself into a trap. That worry will continue to haunt you, if this one doesn't work out, who cares, there ARE other girls out there.
 

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Originally posted by TinyFzzyKiwi
personally, I'm not a fan of double or group dates, I'd rather be alone with the girl. But if that's how it's gona be, then that's how it's gona be. I think the main thing you should think about is not worrying about it so much, by worrying that it won't go right, you push yourself into a trap. That worry will continue to haunt you, if this one doesn't work out, who cares, there ARE other girls out there.
I agree about preferring the "single date" rather than a group date or a double date. I only would really do one of the latter if it was the only way possible.

I am just frustrated that I CANNOT get a single date (I am over 0-5 in high school), I don't know how much juice this idea really has left.

I though it was:
1.) Guy likes girl
2.( Girl shows she "likes" guy
3.) They both flirt with each other
4.) Guy asks giel to a date and they have a good time

Apparently, that doesn't work based on my experience. I do try to flirt more often since reading the DJ Bible and do so more often than my friends, but they're the ones with the girls.
 

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Theres a reason why there are only very few things are completly discouraged on this site.

Double dates with a couple and a chick you like is one of them.
 

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Originally posted by LikRetsam
Theres a reason why there are only very few things are completly discouraged on this site.

Double dates with a couple and a chick you like is one of them.
Well, if I'm with the "chick I like" during this "double date", doesn't that count as a date I have with the girl? :p

You are partially correct...I would definately NOT want all dates, let alone most dates to be a "double". For getting out of the box though and beginning a possible relationship, I feel it is not a bad idea. After that though, the "single date" is the better route.

On the contrary, perhaps I should go up to her in a few days (or whenever is best) and go for a "date" where it is just me and her (so I get to know her better). If she immediately opts for the friend, I'll walk away. She didn't want to do it where it was just the two of us 2 weeks ago; this will be like an ultimatum (sic) - planning a date with more people can be confusing at times.
 
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Well I went double dating yesterday, and it does work... although I really preffered single dating. Make sure you do lots of kino on her, my girl was constantly trying to kino me.
 
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