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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
How is this for advice if gf is ignoring you?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Women are cats. If you chase a cat, it will run from you. If you ignore it, it will come to you. Women's emotions ebb and flow. When she withdraws, you should withdraw. She will eventually hunger to be with you. If she doesn't, then you don't belong with her in the first place.
The OP's link is preposterous. "Non-violent communication" LOL.
Pursuing a woman who is backing off is the death knell for your relationship. Back off, give her space, and let her see clearly that you can do just fine without her. Enter the hamster-spin. She will talk herself into valuing you much more highly. You've created an uncomfortable vacuum that she will feel internal pressure to fill. Such is the mind of womankind.
The OP's link is preposterous. "Non-violent communication" LOL.
Pursuing a woman who is backing off is the death knell for your relationship. Back off, give her space, and let her see clearly that you can do just fine without her. Enter the hamster-spin. She will talk herself into valuing you much more highly. You've created an uncomfortable vacuum that she will feel internal pressure to fill. Such is the mind of womankind.
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I was basically joking/trolling with the OP haha. Just wanted to see what people would say here or how they'd react. That article was probably written for like teenagers or something.
Yeah I feel like once a girl gets into the "I need space" thing or stops communicating as much with you, it's hard to come out of it okay and you're pretty much done. If you chase her and start asking her to tell you what's going on and what's wrong and all that, or asking if you're annoying, it will likely be a self-fulfilling prophecy ending with her denouncing you as clingy and needy and dumping you. On the other hand, if you do nothing, you also run the risk of just looking like you don't care either or like you're not into the whole thing. It can be tricky.
Yeah I feel like once a girl gets into the "I need space" thing or stops communicating as much with you, it's hard to come out of it okay and you're pretty much done. If you chase her and start asking her to tell you what's going on and what's wrong and all that, or asking if you're annoying, it will likely be a self-fulfilling prophecy ending with her denouncing you as clingy and needy and dumping you. On the other hand, if you do nothing, you also run the risk of just looking like you don't care either or like you're not into the whole thing. It can be tricky.