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How is this for a first date idea

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Last week I posted on how I met a girl while volunteering and got her number. Since then I have talked to her once over the phone and we saw each other today again. She seemed really happy when she saw me and gave me a good hug. I managed to get in a bit of kino when she asked me to check her neck to see if there were any black marks on it. I was a bit out of it because I was half blind (eye was infected) and my allergies were bothering me, so I couldnt take full advantage of the situation. I am quite certain now that she is definately interested in me

She later mentioned something about getting together friday and I suggested we go biking (we are both pretty active) with the option of coffee after. She seemed to really like the idea. What do you guys think? I thought it would be a good idea to have an action date, and since I have been doing a fair bit of biking around the area I know a couple of nice secluded areas with decent scenery :woo:
 

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Yeah, it's a good date idea. I am always in favor of doing fun activities during a date. Just make sure you go for the kiss if you reach one of those romantic secluded places you know and if the moment feels right:)
 

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I'm a huge advocate for cycling but there's a couple of things to consider when using it as a date:
  1. Her biking skill:Is she a hammer head or just a social rider? It's better to know this in advance.
  2. Where will you ride? If her skillset is that of the average person, you'll probably take regular bike paths with other cyclist, pedestrians, inline skaters, children, you name it. You won't be able to ride side by side and have a good conversation often.
  3. Coffee afterwards is a good idea, will you be riding your bikes to the shop? If so, where will you park them?
  4. Your date may want to clean up before going to a coffee shop, not usually the case with a hammer head.
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    It's much eisier if the two of you are hammerheads. Women cyclist who are avid about the sport are usually game for anything and won't have much of the hang ups of leisurly cyclists.
 

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# Her biking skill:Is she a hammer head or just a social rider? It's better to know this in advance.
# Where will you ride? If her skillset is that of the average person, you'll probably take regular bike paths with other cyclist, pedestrians, inline skaters, children, you name it. You won't be able to ride side by side and have a good conversation often.
# Coffee afterwards is a good idea, will you be riding your bikes to the shop? If so, where will you park them?
# Your date may want to clean up before going to a coffee shop, not usually the case with a hammer head.
When I talked with her, the impression that I got was that she had an adventurous streak and liked exploring new places. She does like to bike but is more of a relaxing, trail going rider. I do not know what her endurance is like but i know for a fact that its nowhere near mine (longest ride I did was 75 km round trip.) Attitude wise, she is a bit of a tomboy, so I doubt she will be worried what she smells like when we do stop for coffee or ice cream or whatever.

I am also thinking of a contingency plan in case the weather is too crappy for riding
 

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Originally posted by Doc73
When I talked with her, the impression that I got was that she had an adventurous streak and liked exploring new places. She does like to bike but is more of a relaxing, trail going rider. I do not know what her endurance is like but i know for a fact that its nowhere near mine (longest ride I did was 75 km round trip.) Attitude wise, she is a bit of a tomboy, so I doubt she will be worried what she smells like when we do stop for coffee or ice cream or whatever.

I am also thinking of a contingency plan in case the weather is too crappy for riding
She sounds like someone who will be easy to amuse as long as it's not the typical "nice guy" BS. You could always consider mountain biking. Nothing rough, maybe a little single track. What is actually a lot of fun is if you guys could get your hands on a tandem. It takes a bit more coordination but you guys can easily talk to one another. Plus tandems are notorious for being able to bring out whether a couple would be able to communicate well together.

If there's inclimate weather, consider indoor paint ball or a sporting store with a indoor rock climbing wall. A bit of an extreme is a gun firing range. There's also indoor go carts or even a karaoke bar. The list is endless as long as you can feed her need for excitement and a thrill. ;)
 
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