"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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How important is it for you to be specific about plans

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when you ask a girl out? For example, if I am asking a girl to lunch, must I specify where I plan on taking her to lunch? I think that it would be better to decide together and agree on a place, but this also seems less confident.

What do you guys do?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DJStudent

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You should review the bible a bit on being a MAN!

Lol, just decide when and where and what you like to eat. The only thing you should ask her is if she's vegitarian or vegan. That we be a bad date if she turns out to be one and you're at a bbq.
 

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" I think that it would be better to decide together and agree on a place, but this also seems less confident "

This does not seem less confident. It plain old IS. By 'deciding together', you are removing at least one of your testicles (50%) from the relationship. I would even go as far as to say that you should'nt ask if she is a vegan or not, although you could scope out several places that can cater for this genetic deficiancy - should the need arise. If she is, you can just tell her that you "assumed she was normal". Then make sure you dont do it again.

Anyway, i think that sorting out this kinda thing before the event removes the valuable air of mystery. You could arrange to do ONE thing with her, then , when she turns up, do something completly different.
 

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if you have a place you really want to go to, go there if she has no objections. if you dont care, ask her if she has a fav. place she wants to go to.

IS IT REALLY THIS HARD?????




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Well I think the best way to talk about plans is..THAT YOU DON'T
Surprise her, she will love that. Makes you seem in control .. they love that. Good Luck.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jay .. you gots to make sure all goes well. Reasearch her favorite resteraunts thru friends etc. Deterimine the frequency she has been to each of these places lately. If she has been there alot, don't take her to that one. Go to each and ask around if they've seen her recently. Next determine the ETA time. Calculate mileage etc. to determine distance to and fro getting the amount of time it takes, and set aside x minutes for lunch. You don't want to exceed her allocated lunch time, otherwise she'll be pissed at you!

You see, that's not so bad. It shows a man in control who leaves nothing to chance! Get on with your bad self dawg.
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
Jay .. you gots to make sure all goes well. Reasearch her favorite resteraunts thru friends etc. Deterimine the frequency she has been to each of these places lately. If she has been there alot, don't take her to that one. Go to each and ask around if they've seen her recently. Next determine the ETA time. Calculate mileage etc. to determine distance to and fro getting the amount of time it takes, and set aside x minutes for lunch. You don't want to exceed her allocated lunch time, otherwise she'll be pissed at you!

You see, that's not so bad. It shows a man in control who leaves nothing to chance! Get on with your bad self dawg.
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Dont be specific to her at all. Let her sit in anticipation. Just say "we're going out" and she'll get wet trying to filling in the blanks.
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
Jay .. you gots to make sure all goes well. Reasearch her favorite resteraunts thru friends etc. Deterimine the frequency she has been to each of these places lately. If she has been there alot, don't take her to that one. Go to each and ask around if they've seen her recently. Next determine the ETA time. Calculate mileage etc. to determine distance to and fro getting the amount of time it takes, and set aside x minutes for lunch. You don't want to exceed her allocated lunch time, otherwise she'll be pissed at you!

You see, that's not so bad. It shows a man in control who leaves nothing to chance! Get on with your bad self dawg.
Are you for real?! Thats AFC behaviour if ever i saw it.

If the lady does'nt like what i choose, she may lump what i choose. NEXT!
 

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Originally posted by eoin2000
Are you for real?! Thats AFC behaviour if ever i saw it.

If the lady does'nt like what i choose, she may lump what i choose. NEXT!
Agreed.

First off, it's important not just to get her number. You have to make a time-bridge. You have to set something up. A number close doesn't mean sh*t to girls these days usually. It's much MUCH better to make sure that you set something up. For example, tell her you're going shopping for new trousers tomorrow and you'd like her to come b/c you want a female opinion or ask her does she like Avril Lavigne and tell her you're going to the Avri lavigne concert on Monday and she should come along.

It's actually better to leave it hanging a little. Like, you could say... "I'm going shopping for trousers tomorrow in xxx, should be fun picking them out, but I don't reay know which ones I want". If she likes you, she'll invite herself. But just getting her number alone is amatuer hour.

Forget the restaurants.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Until I have sex with a woman a few times and rock her world, I never ask her what she wants to do when I set up the date. Pure AFC. I do like to know something about her interests to avoid her not having a good time at a restaurant or activity. This shows I listened to her when she talked and its just common courtesy without seeming like a wimp.
 
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