"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How important is experience really?

ItsOnNow

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I halfway know the answer to that,but what about someone who feels inexpereinced or behind? Mostly with dating,sex,social things. My problem seems to be,for some reason or another,I either can't talk to girls,whether its approaching/attracting,or just going up and talking to them,or having them miraculolusly coming to you. For someone who feels average,I would have to work twice as hard,yet for feeling as I have been out of things for so long,I feel like I am behind,have alot of catching up to do,and for that reason,that may scare people off,or no one would want to be with me. I do have some symptoms of love shy,which can be read about here,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love-shyness, if you haven't already. Or perhaps it is late bloomerness,or lazyness.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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i read this somewhere...maybe here but i cant remember

"whens the best time to plant a tree?"

"30 years ago."

"when is the next best time"

"NOW!"

i know what its like to feel behind, i think most people here do, but the more you wait the harder it will get, so just go out there and do it!
 

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There seems to be a lot of criteria associated with being love-shy. You should read over it carefully. Plus I don't think this "mental problem" is recognized as legitimate right now. It looks to me like a combination of other mood and anxiety disorders that contribute to being so called "love-shy".

It seems to me like you have fears. Every guy does. Even guys who approach random girls all the time still get nervous some. It's normal. Just don't let your anxiety get to you. You really need to just change your mental attitude. If you don't do that then all the experience in the world won't help.
 

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I've learned a lot more about how to game from experience than I did with a book. The books help but it was really going out there and making my mistakes that has made me more confident. Just make mistakes, your first approach or interaction doesn't need to be perfect. In the past year I've experienced many humiliations that made me want to disappear off the face of the earth, but ultimately it helped me.
 

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There is no substitute for experience. This is true for everything in life. Truth is experiential, not intellectual. The great thing about experience is that it is available to everyone. But it is something you must earn. No one can give it to you. And this is why you will cherish it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Stop making excuses, your looking for an excuse.

No matter how far behind you are, if you go out and approach you'll have way more experience then the average man.

At one point I did 150 sets in less than a week. I was seeing sh!t that I never saw before. It's insane! Some people don't even talk to 150 sets in 5 years.

There is a way to get rid of AA. I currently have no AA but I really spent time on my identity.
 

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Doesn't matter if you get 10 in a row, or if you get 10 and rejected by 9. Either way, a 10/19 record is better than a 0/0 record. You have to start somewhere.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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That's the thing,I work a retail job,So customer service is a big part of it,and I approach people all day,and I have no issue with it,yet outside of it,I am like mentally blocked. I have worked there for 3 years,and can't put two and tow together,yet here are these 18,19 year old guys meeting random chicks at parades,bars,parties,etc,and getting exactly what they want.Maybe its lifestyle,i wake up,go to work,then come home.and on days off,i mull about.Course,that has been a bad habit for me for some time. It may be inferiority feelings.
 

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ItsOnNow said:
That's the thing,I work a retail job,So customer service is a big part of it,and I approach people all day,and I have no issue with it,yet outside of it,I am like mentally blocked. I have worked there for 3 years,and can't put two and tow together,yet here are these 18,19 year old guys meeting random chicks at parades,bars,parties,etc,and getting exactly what they want.Maybe its lifestyle,i wake up,go to work,then come home.and on days off,i mull about.Course,that has been a bad habit for me for some time. It may be inferiority feelings.

Ok, that explains the problem. You need to start doing stuff after work and on weekends. Go out, get a hobby, go to the gym, ectt... anything that makes you feel like you aren't mulling about.

Also stop comparing yourself to 18 & 19 year old punks.
 

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That's another problem,I can't bring myself to do it. I can't find the energy too,and I feel like I am so behind.
 

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ItsOnNow said:
That's another problem,I can't bring myself to do it. I can't find the energy too,and I feel like I am so behind.
come on man....everybodys got free time....unless you sleep 15 hours a day or work 3 jobs....

we can only show you the door, your the one who has to walk through it
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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