"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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what the problem is this : guys need sex. it's ingrained in there dna. society tells women it's not cool to be DTF. so they withhold. only the top 10% get sexy. they rest of they guys try so hard but fail at trying to get it. .

what upsets me the most is:: when was it so hard to get sex? i mean really? it's just the same about pleasures for the girl so why is it held up to this unrealistic standard.

so many guys are stuck in the scarcity mindset (myself included) it just brings everyone else down.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Eh, girls need sex too.

Society tells us that GUYS are supposed to be the sex that does the chasing. It takes a considerate amount of skills to charm a girl. This is why "ladies men" or guys that get plenty of sex are generally praised and looked up to in our society. On the other hand it really takes no amount of skill for a girl to be a giant wh0re and just fvck every guy that shows interest.

Girls want to fvck too, but until their desire to not look like a wh0re is eclipsed by their desire to fvck you, you're outta luck.
 

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oh i'm not " dissing the game" I know i have to work on my game and become better..

i was just saying something that i was thinking about..
 

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It seems to me you're just running into the natural phenomena we call the "anti-slvt defense". A made up defensive barrier a woman uses so she doesn't look like a slvt. Learn how to disarm this and sex will come a lot readily and easier for you. Woman want sex just as much a men do.

-Scars
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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muscleman said:
Not true, vastly differing levels of testosterone say so.

Also males have always chased the females throughout history, for evolutionary reasons. Women are "worth more" from a biological perspective.
Because testosterone is the only chemical associated with sex right?

From an evolutionary stand point, men SHOULD be the chasers. I don't disagree with that. It's a matter of the woman giving it up or not. Most woman want sex, they're just picky, and a lot of girls wont have sex unless all those right buttons are pushed. But it doesn't make them want the sex any less.

-Scars
 

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Packers2010 said:
what the problem is this : guys need sex. it's ingrained in there dna. society tells women it's not cool to be DTF. so they withhold. only the top 10% get sexy. they rest of they guys try so hard but fail at trying to get it. .

what upsets me the most is:: when was it so hard to get sex? i mean really? it's just the same about pleasures for the girl so why is it held up to this unrealistic standard.

so many guys are stuck in the scarcity mindset (myself included) it just brings everyone else down.
Since when did girls start withholding sex? Seems like their all opening their legs :cheer:
 

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Packers2010 said:
what the problem is this : guys need sex. it's ingrained in there dna. society tells women it's not cool to be DTF. so they withhold. only the top 10% get sexy. they rest of they guys try so hard but fail at trying to get it. .

what upsets me the most is:: when was it so hard to get sex? i mean really? it's just the same about pleasures for the girl so why is it held up to this unrealistic standard.

so many guys are stuck in the scarcity mindset (myself included) it just brings everyone else down.
Whoever a girl chooses to have sex with could be considered public record. If you have no job, no money, no place, no education, no friends, she is not going to give up the goods. First, people want to be associated with a winner. Second, even if she does have sex with you when you are down and out, she risks her reputation. You could go tell all her friends she gave it up to a nobody, guy with no job or friends. Makes her look terrible, lowers her value.

That's why girls are picky, they are afraid you may kiss and tell. If she could program you so no one would know you slept together, whole different ball game.
 

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Women absolutely LOVE sex, romance and relationships.

They just have a higher cost associated with having sex than we do as men.

Btw, there are TONS of people out there having sex without any of this stuff. But it's easy to get caught up in the scarcity mindset while reading pick up stuff.

The fact is that women are people. People love and need sex. Women want to be with cool, fun and interesting men who make them feel good. If you are out there meeting women, you will notice that there is absolutely no shortage of them. There is no problem or scarcity, it's all an illusion. :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dante1a said:
But it's easy to get caught up in the scarcity mindset while reading pick up stuff.
I think reading pickup material can actually reinforce a scarcity mindset.
What with all the nonsense about how only the top 10% elite guys get laid. How you have to be an alpha male or women will despise you, etc. etc.

As for the shortage of women, once you eliminate all the married girls, the obese girls, unnatractive girls, and women with children, I don't think there is as much an abundance as PUAs lead you to believe, especially when you get to be my age. Although it probably is true for most of the young guys on here, depending on where you live.

But a truly attractive women is always going to get a huge amount of attention.
 
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