thunder_god
Master Don Juan
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I'm curious for all those veterans out there who have been learning game for a while now, how has this changed your life for better or worse?
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
How has learning game changed your life?
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I tried to write a lot, but ended up deleting, rewriting, the deleting some more, posting what was left, then editing and deleting more until this was left:
The paradox of Game (or is it life?) - once you get where you thought you wanted to get, you realize that it was all but for naught.
Caveat emptor.
The paradox of Game (or is it life?) - once you get where you thought you wanted to get, you realize that it was all but for naught.
Caveat emptor.
I went out initially not to pickup through cold approaching but to learn social and conversational skills. It done me wonders as I kind of became the person I always wanted to.
In recent years its been about skirt and to be honest I have extremely high standards and sadly I am not doing too well. I suppose I could easily pickup 5s but I have no desire to have sex with average women.
In recent years its been about skirt and to be honest I have extremely high standards and sadly I am not doing too well. I suppose I could easily pickup 5s but I have no desire to have sex with average women.
logicallefty
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It has made me feel alone out there.
Most of my friends are married AFCs who are way too nice to their wives and put up with wayyy too much. When I try to talk about it it isn't taken well at all.
I only have like 2-3 married friends who I think do OK but the rest I really worry about a lot. I worry for them in that it's only a matter of time before wifey's attraction hour glass empties and you all know what happens next. I don't think many of these friends are emotionally strong enough to deal with it but when it happens I will be there for them. I just wish they would listen and be more proactive but like I said it's a sore subject.
Most of my friends are married AFCs who are way too nice to their wives and put up with wayyy too much. When I try to talk about it it isn't taken well at all.
I only have like 2-3 married friends who I think do OK but the rest I really worry about a lot. I worry for them in that it's only a matter of time before wifey's attraction hour glass empties and you all know what happens next. I don't think many of these friends are emotionally strong enough to deal with it but when it happens I will be there for them. I just wish they would listen and be more proactive but like I said it's a sore subject.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
IBreatheSpears
Senior Don Juan
Frankly, it has completely changed my life. I first experienced Game about four years ago (aged 16) via that old "Ladder Theory" site. I think I may have ended up here and on the DJ bible at some point as well. At the time I was a shut-in, socially retarded and had never had a girlfriend. I was actually linked to laddertheory.com from 4chan's /v/ (video games) board, as it happens. In just a couple of weeks I made a tremendous change. I couldn't believe it myself: people thought I was funny, charming, a shy girl I tried to help out said "Yeah, but you're naturally confident" and I burst out laughing, a female friend told me I had a "purposeful, confident" walk and a charming smile. But I failed to keep the redpill down: I was still beta at heart, and while I was able to attract some hot girls (including the hottest girl in my year group, a sweet little Portuguese beauty who is probably responsible for my surviving lust for foreign girls) I failed to make a move, although I did get some make-outs with hotties.
It wasn't until I was 18 that I lost my virginity, to a Serbian 5/10 (quite pretty but flat-chested and awkward). It only lasted two months, though. In the next months I laid a 4/10 English girl and a married 2/10, also English. The 4 caught feelings for me and I -- mostly accidentally -- used hardcore push/pull tactics on here to secure her as my FWB. But eventually, I slipped and went exclusive with her, purely due to my jealousy. This brings us to this January past after I broke up with her, then regretted it hard and went beta. Surprisingly, 4chan actually helped me out again; someone posted a link to Rollo's blog and that was how I got back into the Game. Since then, I've slept with a Greek 7/10, an English 6/10 (my ex's best friend, and my best friend's current girlfriend), an English 5/10 and a French 7/10. I recently went on a date with an 8 (notice how the rating is creeping up over time, as is the frequency -- Game fúcking works!) from Holland although it screwed that one up. And that brings us to the current day.
So my experience has been a huge improvement, but it hasn't been steady progress at all. There have been times where I leapt forward, and times where I fell hard.
It wasn't until I was 18 that I lost my virginity, to a Serbian 5/10 (quite pretty but flat-chested and awkward). It only lasted two months, though. In the next months I laid a 4/10 English girl and a married 2/10, also English. The 4 caught feelings for me and I -- mostly accidentally -- used hardcore push/pull tactics on here to secure her as my FWB. But eventually, I slipped and went exclusive with her, purely due to my jealousy. This brings us to this January past after I broke up with her, then regretted it hard and went beta. Surprisingly, 4chan actually helped me out again; someone posted a link to Rollo's blog and that was how I got back into the Game. Since then, I've slept with a Greek 7/10, an English 6/10 (my ex's best friend, and my best friend's current girlfriend), an English 5/10 and a French 7/10. I recently went on a date with an 8 (notice how the rating is creeping up over time, as is the frequency -- Game fúcking works!) from Holland although it screwed that one up. And that brings us to the current day.
So my experience has been a huge improvement, but it hasn't been steady progress at all. There have been times where I leapt forward, and times where I fell hard.