"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How hard is it to get chicks that look like this for example?

I_have_BDE

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On facebook keep getting ads for this little women's clothing company in Austin, Texas. Anyway, I noticed their model is pretty hot, looks kinda like the yuppies you'd see on Bumble, using it for validation.

How often do you think she gets cold approached and PUA game used on her? Chicks like this the type you see going for doctors or lawyers, and chads?





 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Easy if you are a Chad. Hard for everyone else.

This broad is a classic “Queen 7.” That means she is a 7 that thinks she is a 10. Good luck with this one!
Around my area she would be an 8 at least! In NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, or Austin I imagine these chicks are a dime a dozen due to the younger demographics.

She's got a nice face, smile and isn't fat. 90 percent of the women don't look like this. Before Covid on OLD when it had a lot hotter women, chicks like this wasn't that hard at all to get a number from if you got a reply back and exchanged a few messages back and forth. The only problem with the 7 to 7.5 range is the attention span! They quickly ghost or decline if you don't get them in person fast enough. I almost think these HB7 to 7.5 are hard because they have so many guys after them. An HB9 for example many guys are scared to cold approach or ask out due to fear of rejection because she's so hot. Vs HB7 to 8 that you might think you have a shot with.
 

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She looks Israeli, I used to hit on a lot of flight attendants from their airline. They're easy to approach and get their number but difficult to get anywhere with.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Looks like the type that would smoke shisha with you and have a good time. I'd hit it - I like how she is put together on the last picture. I've had a string of women at her level. Doctors or lawyers? It's not that serious man, it doesn't take much if she finds you handsome and you come at her the right way. Yes I would agree with the people who said likely the type that would think she is "hot ****". With these you ahve to disregard their beauty and stand up to them, they appreciate that (as do all women really)
 

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Girl is attractive but she is a good example of a queen 7. These are the types of girls I tend to date though lol. How?

1). Having a decent job that requires a degree helps

2). Have Chad attributes: preppy, tall, muscular, particular tastes and hobbies

3). Have emotional intelligence, the pua shvt won’t work on them

4). Be social able and be ready to host shvt for her cvnt friends
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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This broad is a classic “Queen 7.” That means she is a 7 that thinks she is a 10. Good luck with this one!
Girl is attractive but she is a good example of a queen 7.
Around my area she would be an 8 at least!
I would rate her in the 7 to 8 range. I'll split the difference and call her a 7.5.

She's got a nice face, smile and isn't fat. 90 percent of the women don't look like this. The only problem with the 7 to 7.5 range is the attention span! They quickly ghost or decline if you don't get them in person fast enough. I almost think these HB7 to 7.5 are hard because they have so many guys after them. An HB9 for example many guys are scared to cold approach or ask out due to fear of rejection because she's so hot. Vs HB7 to 8 that you might think you have a shot with.
This is a good assessment of her looks and how she perceives her own demand.

Her Good Attributes
  • She's young and has a nice looking face
  • She's trim and not overweight
  • Pleasant smile
  • Long hair
What She's Missing
  • While she's trim, it's clear that she doesn't do much in the way of weight training. This is a classic cardio focused woman. There's little muscle tone there.
  • Her legs aren't shaped that well, which is related to her weight training
  • Her butt wouldn't be spectacular, but it wouldn't be embarrassing either

How often do you think she gets cold approached and PUA game used on her? Chicks like this the type you see going for doctors or lawyers, and chads?
In a given week, a woman who looks similar to her would likely get cold approached by 5 different men between her gym, mall, and grocery store visits, plus her walking outdoors time. These are legitimate approaches, not cat calls.

In a broad social circle, if she were available, she would have multiple men in a social circle competing hard for her. Around 10 years ago in my social circle, there were lesser looking women (women in the 5.5-6.5 range) who entered the circle and there were intense, multiple man competition for those women.

If she's on a swipe app, her demand goes from 5 men a week via cold approach to hundreds of men a week. Then you add in her DMs if she's active on a social media platform. Instagram is where she would get the most DMs, but she'd have some DM volume on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.

1). Having a decent job that requires a degree helps

2). Have Chad attributes: preppy, tall, muscular, particular tastes and hobbies

3). Have emotional intelligence, the pua shvt won’t work on them

4). Be social able and be ready to host shvt for her cvnt friends
A woman who is a trim, 7.5 like that is chasing white collar, White male Chads mainly.

She might slightly lower her standards for a beta in her social circle. She's going to be more stringent with men who cold approach her or start an interaction with her through a tech method.
 

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Girl is attractive but she is a good example of a queen 7. These are the types of girls I tend to date though lol. How?

1). Having a decent job that requires a degree helps

2). Have Chad attributes: preppy, tall, muscular, particular tastes and hobbies

3). Have emotional intelligence, the pua shvt won’t work on them

4). Be social able and be ready to host shvt for her cvnt friends
Most women don't have emotional intelligence or any intelligence for that matter! They're just a cluster! Reason why you don't see women inventing much stuff and they're a mess in leadership roles.
 

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Most women don't have emotional intelligence or any intelligence for that matter! They're just a cluster! Reason why you don't see women inventing much stuff and they're a mess in leadership roles.
I didn’t say she was emotionally intelligent, I said a guy needs this because these women tend to be emotional divas with a facade presenting themselves as perfect angels or ambitious angels.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Most women don't have emotional intelligence or any intelligence for that matter! They're just a cluster! Reason why you don't see women inventing much stuff and they're a mess in leadership roles.
Women tend to do reasonably well with emotional intelligence as they often have better social skills than men. There are few socially inept women whereas there are plenty of socially inept men.

Men tend to be stronger in terms of raw intelligence, critical thinking, and problem solving.

I agree that women are a mess in middle and upper management business roles. Some of this also depends upon the structure of the organization. Generally speaking, a business is better served with more males in middle to upper management.

Harvard and U Penn (Wharton School MBA) educated Alissa Heinerscheid was an executive level marketer who destroyed a major brand.
 

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I would definetly like to date a woman like this. I often match with these types but the conversation fizzles out for no reason.

Approaching in person, if they are single, is what I would do I think for the best chance to get her undivided attention.
 

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I would definetly like to date a woman like this. I often match with these types but the conversation fizzles out for no reason.

Approaching in person, if they are single, is what I would do I think for the best chance to get her undivided attention.
She's a decent dating option. If only 5 men approach her per week vs. 100+ when she uses apps, any man is better off approaching in real life. That 5 figure might increase if she spends more time in bars.

For you personally, as a 6'5" man, that is a big in-person advantage.
 

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She's got a nice face, smile and isn't fat. 90 percent of the women don't look like this.
You mean to tell us that in your area 90% of 20s something girls are obese and/or with short red/blue hair? :rolleyes:

Going by the title you chose for the thread and this VV
Chicks like this the type you see going for doctors or lawyers, and chads?
I get the impression you're putting women on a pedestal and you've lost the frame before even starting anything. There's very little info to make an assessment, just 4 professionally done photos ...the vibe I get from the 1st and 3rd photo is that she's a masculine, boss babe. :rolleyes:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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