How fast should a man move with women?

[Trump]

Apparently this guy woke up one day and decided he would be what women were missing all their lives. After reading tons of books and asking tons of girls about dating, he gets more sex than he can handle now. He is saying a man should have sex with a woman within 600 seconds of meeting her.

Secrets to Getting Girls: Move Faster

We’re starting a new series of articles intending to highlight some little-known or under-discussed topics in the world of dating and seduction, called Secrets to Getting Girls. This first edition is focused on how fast you move through an interaction with a girl you like, from the time you...

www.girlschase.com

Interesting line in the article is:

“IF a man is

1) cool
2) normal guy
3) takes care of himself
4) grooms himself well
5) is friendly
6) outgoing, and
7) sociable, with at least a little bit of
8) sexiness and
9) confidence about you,

I guarantee you you will get a lot more girls by moving faster.”

Buddy, if a man is ALL that, why does he need your articles to tell him what to do?

Hilarious.

 

[highSpeed]

Apparently this guy woke up one day and decided he would be what women were missing all their lives. After reading tons of books and asking tons of girls about dating, he gets more sex than he can handle now. He is saying a man should have sex with a woman within 600 seconds of meeting her.

Secrets to Getting Girls: Move Faster

We’re starting a new series of articles intending to highlight some little-known or under-discussed topics in the world of dating and seduction, called Secrets to Getting Girls. This first edition is focused on how fast you move through an interaction with a girl you like, from the time you...

www.girlschase.com

Interesting line in the article is:

“IF a man is

1) cool
2) normal guy
3) takes care of himself
4) grooms himself well
5) is friendly
6) outgoing, and
7) sociable, with at least a little bit of
8) sexiness and
9) confidence about you,

I guarantee you you will get a lot more girls by moving faster.”

Buddy, if a man is ALL that, why does he need your articles to tell him what to do?

Hilarious.

Sex within 10 minutes, probably, with a hooker anyway. Look, you should have sex with her within 3 dates. She either likes you or she doesn't, this is a post courting world we live in, so it's not usually about a relationship or marriage, it's simply about whether or not you both want to f*ck or not. We can debate whether or not living in a post courting world is the best move for society in general but that horse is out of the barn at this point, not likely to get him back in there unless society as a whole decides that's what it wants and that's unlikely unless there is some general catastrophe that causes people to rethink their behavior.

 

[Serenity]

Buddy, if a man is ALL that, why does he need your articles to tell him what to do?

Because we all are, but our worst enemy is ourselves. Anyone who is not those things hasn't realized he can just start being those things. It's so fvcking simple that most guys just refuse to believe it's that simple, but it is.

 

[Robert28]

It’s never a one size fits all with women. You just have to learn to read their interest in you. Some women will string you along for sex and it’s never worth the wait, some will make you wait and once you break those walls down they turn into FREAKS in the sack. Sometimes all you’ll get it sex on the first date and never hear from them again. I’ve known some girls for years that I never dreamed I would have a chance too hookup with, right time and right opportunity comes along and before you know it you’re having sex on the regular with a girl you never thought you had a chance with in all the years you’ve known her.

 

[Trump]

Because we all are, but our worst enemy is ourselves. Anyone who is not those things hasn't realized he can just start being those things. It's so fvcking simple that most guys just refuse to believe it's that simple, but it is.

Fair enough.

Then he should just stick with those things. To tell men to do those things and THEN tell men how to act with women with 50 articles on a website is ridiculous.

It’s like saying “IF you have money and make quick decision buying houses, I gaurentee you realtors will love you more.”

Stupid.

 

[Serenity]

To tell men to do those things and THEN tell men how to act with women with 50 articles on a website is ridiculous.

Yes and no, depends how it's interpreted. Those articles should be more of a source of inspiration than following it like it was a recipe. They're examples of how a situation COULD be handled, at least it should be taken as that. Gathering personal experience through both failure and success will always be far superior than reading advice, but the advice can bring someone from having no ideas to at least having a few to try out. You can still totally do the wrong thing with complete confidence and some mistakes are easy to avoid if known about.

I see that most guys seeking advice are looking for something that just doesn't exist in dating, safety. There are no safe moves that will guarantee attraction, everything is a risk. Finding enjoyment in fvck ups is absolutely revolutionary to the learning process, but many great failure as it hurts their fragile ego.

 

[Serenity]

Finding enjoyment in fvck ups is absolutely revolutionary to the learning process, but many great failure as it hurts their fragile ego.

Not sure how I missed that, but "great" should be "fear". I blame my phone.

 

[Murk]

Sex within 10 minutes, probably, with a hooker anyway. Look, you should have sex with her within 3 dates. She either likes you or she doesn't, this is a post courting world we live in, so it's not usually about a relationship or marriage, it's simply about whether or not you both want to f*ck or not. We can debate whether or not living in a post courting world is the best move for society in general but that horse is out of the barn at this point, not likely to get him back in there unless society as a whole decides that's what it wants and that's unlikely unless there is some general catastrophe that causes people to rethink their behavior.

What a guy

 

[devilkingx2]

Apparently this guy woke up one day and decided he would be what women were missing all their lives. After reading tons of books and asking tons of girls about dating, he gets more sex than he can handle now. He is saying a man should have sex with a woman within 600 seconds of meeting her.

Secrets to Getting Girls: Move Faster

We’re starting a new series of articles intending to highlight some little-known or under-discussed topics in the world of dating and seduction, called Secrets to Getting Girls. This first edition is focused on how fast you move through an interaction with a girl you like, from the time you...

www.girlschase.com

Interesting line in the article is:

“IF a man is

1) cool
2) normal guy
3) takes care of himself
4) grooms himself well
5) is friendly
6) outgoing, and
7) sociable, with at least a little bit of
8) sexiness and
9) confidence about you,

I guarantee you you will get a lot more girls by moving faster.”

Buddy, if a man is ALL that, why does he need your articles to tell him what to do?

Hilarious.

The point of the advice is that a common problem guys have is not making moves or moving fast enough, I've even seen advice on here about not bringing up sex too quickly, but the point that's being made is that most likely you should be going faster and wasting less time

What do you think is a more common problem for guys to have, being too forward or beating around the bush for too long?

Interesting line in the article is:

“IF a man is

1) cool
2) normal guy
3) takes care of himself
4) grooms himself well
5) is friendly
6) outgoing, and
7) sociable, with at least a little bit of
8) sexiness and
9) confidence about you,

I guarantee you you will get a lot more girls by moving faster.”

Buddy, if a man is ALL that, why does he need your articles to tell him what to do?

Hilarious.

As for this stuff, the list may seem redundant for someone who needs advice, but elliot rodgers already proved that you can be wealthy and good looking but still too socially awkward to get girls. And I always interpreted that list as being more about the woman's perception, "if she thinks you're confident, alpha and handsome why would she have a problem with you making a move right now?" Basically.

 

[Trump]

What do you think is a more common problem for guys to have, being too forward or beating around the bush for too long?

Being too forward. Every time I’ve moved fast its been rejected. Every time it’s sit back, take it easy, go with the flow, they can’t get enough.

And I always interpreted that list as being more about the woman's perception, "if she thinks you're confident, alpha and handsome why would she have a problem with you making a move right now?" Basically.

The list is not the issue. The problem is the list and the articles. Who needs the articles if you are the list?

 

[devilkingx2]

Being too forward. Every time I’ve moved fast its been rejected. Every time it’s sit back, take it easy, go with the flow, they can’t get enough.

There are definitely guys who move too fast, but I think it's way more common to move too slow. How many nice guys spend weeks and months trying to get a girl who doesn't even know they're interested (or only sees them as a tool to use)? How many guys get friendzoned or are made to wait a ton of dates for sex

I think those guys are way more common than guys who turned a girl off trying to go too fast (unless too fast means opening her with "hey b!tch want some d!ck?")

In my experience if a girl wants the D she wants it quickly, not necessarily within the first day you meet her or first conversation but it certainly won't take a lot of time. I can only think of two girls who didn't like me (or at least want to mess around) really quickly that ended up liking me ever in the future.

 

[The Diver]

There are definitely guys who move too fast, but I think it's way more common to move too slow

The Sixteen Commandments Of Poon

XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little
Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don’t let a woman’s faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known. You don’t have to be an a**hole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate a**hole beats being a polite beta, every time.

 

[Robert28]

Being too forward. Every time I’ve moved fast its been rejected. Every time it’s sit back, take it easy, go with the flow, they can’t get enough.



The list is not the issue. The problem is the list and the articles. Who needs the articles if you are the list?

My experience has been just the opposite. Every time I’ve ever not been aggressive or made it clear what I wanted, they lost interest or moved me to the friend category. Sitting back and waiting is fine, but you’re spending a lot of time in the hopes that it’ll pay off eventually. In other words you can waste months with one girl “taking it slow” and end up getting nothing when you could have been being aggressive with multiple women in that time.

 

[nismo-4]

It's all about timing, interest, availability, her options, and a little luck. And if you don't have any traits that turn her off.

 

[RickTheToad]

@Trump, as fast as she will allow. The ladies like aggressiveness, determination and going after what you want. Playing coy with them usually doesn't work out well. Nor does asking permission. Weak ass sh!t.

 

[SeekerOfTheWay]

@Trump, as fast as she will allow. The ladies like aggressiveness, determination and going after what you want. Playing coy with them usually doesn't work out well. Nor does asking permission. Weak ass sh!t.

It’s a turn off when a man says, “can i kiss you?” ugh. But i get they’re trying to be polite or maybe avoid #metoo. Better is to say, “kiss me.” That’s dominant plus she can still not if she wants. But she will... Someone posted a good video about touch on this forum not long ago. Find that, it’s great advice.

 

[RickTheToad]

It’s a turn off when a man says, “can i kiss you.” ugh. But i get they’re trying to be polite or maybe avoid #metoo. Better is to say, “kiss me.” That’s dominant plus she can still not if she wants. But she will...

It's mainly because of me too for many. I've seen even tough men do this in public when they are chatting up a new flame. It's too risky for a dude to just go in, kiss and grope; even if it's welcomed at first; especially in semi or public places.

 

[Dash Riprock]

It's not a "too fast" / "too slow" argument. I think the big problem here is most (almost all) men don't know how to properly seduce a woman.

Like an NFL QB, you need to read the defense and call your plays accordingly. Honestly, some of this s*hit is really hard to teach but here are some basics:

- Take her somewhere fun, even your house can be fun if you're a good host
- Get at least two drinks in her, 95% will
- Be funny, a good conversationalist, ask questions, be a little ****y and flip her some s*hit
- Get her to try something off the menu she's never had, oysters are always a good bet
- When you get up to leave the bar, lightly put your hand on the small of her back, like you're guiding her
- Tell her you make margaritas a lot better than the bar, "Let's go to my place hang out and have a margaritas, you can meet my viscous Doberman who's been banned in 6 states. Just don't make any sudden moves."
- [Back at your place] Sit on the couch with the drinks, talk a little, maybe 10 minutes. Then, slowly take he drink our of her hand, place it on the table, and kiss her on her mouth softly. Gradually, get more intense with your kiss, while also caressing her shoulders, back, neck. Start moving down to her neck, kissing lightly.
- Check the defense. How is she reacting? Does she like it? Is she reciprocating? You'll just KNOW.
-If yes, start caressing her thighs, slight graze over the p*ussy--all while still kissing her.
- Slowly move her down so she's laying her back. Kiss her neck, moving down just above her tits. Keep caressing her legs, move your kisses around. IF she's really into it...
- Tell her: "Let's get more comfortable." I'm batting 1.000 on this, btw. This means let's move to the bedroom. This is where I use the bathroom and tell her to go upstairs and make herself comfortable. When I come back they're usually laying on my bed in their underwear, bra and panties.
- Bottom line: DO NOT RUSH. Be seductive. not a speed demon. Everything in slow motion. Make her WANT it. Get her hot. Once you get your hand down her panties, you'll know if she's turned on or not. Women heat up like ovens--slowly over time.
- You need to be fun, creative and charismatic too. No one wants to f*uck a bore, mute, or someone who's socially inept.

There are a lot of moving parts. The more you practice the more you'll get it.

Good luck.

 

[Trump]

It’s a turn off when a man says, “can i kiss you?” ugh. But i get they’re trying to be polite or maybe avoid #metoo. Better is to say, “kiss me.” That’s dominant plus she can still not if she wants. But she will... Someone posted a good video about touch on this forum not long ago. Find that, it’s great advice.

What wrong with “can I kiss you?” I’ve used that before and girls tongue was down my throat 4 seconds later. “Kiss me” is demanding and insecure. It’s like walking up to a girl and saying “Give me your phone number now.”

Which would a ladies man say?

James Bond: “May I kiss a lovely girl like you?”

James Bond: “Kiss me now.”

 

[RickTheToad]

What wrong with “can I kiss you?” I’ve used that before and girls tongue was down my throat 4 seconds later. “Kiss me” is demanding and insecure. It’s like walking up to a girl and saying “Give me your phone number now.”

Which would a ladies man say?

James Bond: “May I kiss a lovely girl like you?”

James Bond: “Kiss me now.”

He'd just do it. However, James Bond is a movie; not real life.