How does this reconcile with the social status/social proof thing?

[CasanovaFrankenstein]

I THINK I understand the idea behind social status/social proof (actually all I understand is it's important as far as getting a woman. I really don't understand why its so important to women though).

But explain how this jives with the social status thing: how come for every white m/black f couple you see, there's maybe 50 white f/black m couples? I personally could care less what color anyone is, a$$holes come in all colors and so do cool people. But you can't tell me that it never raises any eyebrows among a white girl's friends when she first starts dating a black guy. Doesn't that mean it could hurt this guy's value as far as social status?

My dad said he saw someone on tv say that the reason you see so many more white f/black m couples than white m/black f couples is because MEN are more concerned with what others think of their partner than women are! Which of course flies in the face of the social proof thing (I think). Anyone have an answer to this?

 

[DavenJuan]

i can see this thread taking a very bad turn 2 pages in...ughh.

however, to stay on topic, i disagree with what your fathers assesment is. i dont believe that men care MORE about what others think than women. I DO think us men care to some extent, but not far as much as women do.

typically when a women is attracted to a man, she seeks approval from friends/family. a lot of times IMO women find other men attractive simply because they believe other women to.

as far as black men w/ wht women. i am in this type of relationship. my LTR is wht and i of course am blk. I think at this point (2008) it seems to be more acceptable socially then the other way around.

i have heard in this forum before in the past that some believe that blk men date wht women because they feel we need to be validated (sort of speak) dating a whte women gains us social proof/status. and a white male dating a blk is the other way around

 

[Tomatoes]

Your getting mixed up......

Your dads TV program in general is correct. Women are not as bothered about their partner as men....in the LOOKS department.

At the end of the day being black or white is purely a looks thing. A black guy and a white guy can be the same in every other way.

Guys focus on looks alot more than girls.

This is completely diffrent to social proof.

A quick example of social proofing is:

A guy walks in the room. He goes and sits on a table by himself with a drink.

Another guy walks in the room with 3 girls around him. He sits down with them and all the girls are laughing at his jokes and loving his company.

If you were a girl onlooking....which would turn you on more?

Thats a very simple basic example of social proofing....

 

[Mad Manic]

I THINK I understand the idea behind social status/social proof (actually all I understand is it's important as far as getting a woman. I really don't understand why its so important to women though).

But explain how this jives with the social status thing: how come for every white m/black f couple you see, there's maybe 50 white f/black m couples? I personally could care less what color anyone is, a$$holes come in all colors and so do cool people. But you can't tell me that it never raises any eyebrows among a white girl's friends when she first starts dating a black guy. Doesn't that mean it could hurt this guy's value as far as social status?

My dad said he saw someone on tv say that the reason you see so many more white f/black m couples than white m/black f couples is because MEN are more concerned with what others think of their partner than women are! Which of course flies in the face of the social proof thing (I think). Anyone have an answer to this?

Black men evolved from the slave days to chase white women and sex them as a way of revenge against their white male slave masters. Black women evolved to not have sex with white men because they raped them for 4 centuries. In addition black males are masculine, white females are feminine whereas black girls are quite masculine and white males more feminine than black men, all in general and relatively speaking. Those are basically the reasons.

MM

 

[Mad Manic]

This is completely diffrent to social proof.

A quick example of social proofing is:

A guy walks in the room. He goes and sits on a table by himself with a drink.

Another guy walks in the room with 3 girls around him. He sits down with them and all the girls are laughing at his jokes and loving his company.

If you were a girl onlooking....which would turn you on more?

Thats a very simple basic example of social proofing....

Yes, social proof is very important, it's the crux of getting women. Met many posers and liars who claim to get laid but you know they don't because they never prove it when you're with them and they don't have good social proof. All the guys I know who get laid do so via good social networking and social proof.

MM

 

[VashStampede]

White people are the top of the sexual food chain.... mkay?

Now listen...


Who wears the pants in an all white relationship? The man!
Who wears the pants in an interracial relationship? The white

The white girl holds the reigns. She can have anyone she wants.. The black guy? He NEEDS the white girl because apparently it shows he's more of a man. But you know what? In my country where whites are the minority, Id say you see an equal to the interracial relationships with regards to gender. So my theory is aimed at other countries where blacks are the minority and therefore thought of differently..

 

[DonGorgon]

A chart with a clear break down:

http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/dating/holding_hands.jpg

Look at this for the explanation:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=135152&highlight=socioeconomics

 

[DavenJuan]

..we can expect the mods any moment now.....

 

[DonGorgon]

..we can expect the mods any moment now.....

Yeh I know .. discussion of very important sociological trends and race are not permited as such discussions may result in too many people becoming too educated about too many important issues....

 

[DavenJuan]

White people are the top of the sexual food chain.... mkay?

Now listen...


Who wears the pants in an all white relationship? The man!
Who wears the pants in an interracial relationship? The white

The white girl holds the reigns. She can have anyone she wants.. The black guy? He NEEDS the white girl because apparently it shows he's more of a man. But you know what? In my country where whites are the minority, Id say you see an equal to the interracial relationships with regards to gender. So my theory is aimed at other countries where blacks are the minority and therefore thought of differently..

myself being blk and gf being white, i would like to know your expert opinion. i could never figure this out, but i DO feel more like a MAN because my girl is white. i feel whole. do you have the answer to this riddle?????

i know if i break up with her, i will feel less like a man. my dignity would be stripped away from me.

your educated opinion would help me sleep tonight

 

[VashStampede]

lol Daven. Walk in public with a white girl and get attention, and then walk in public with a black girl. Tell me the difference. In your position now im sure you cant tell. But yeah there is a difference.

I also think the appeal with white woman and black guys is that it was forbidden. anything that is forbidden automatically seems better than it is, and a good idea. Thats why religious nuts sin more than anyone else. They create a psychological temptation that is extremely hard to resist.

 

[slaog]

Black men evolved from the slave days to chase white women and sex them as a way of revenge against their white male slave masters. Black women evolved to not have sex with white men because they raped them for 4 centuries. In addition black males are masculine, white females are feminine whereas black girls are quite masculine and white males more feminine than black men, all in general and relatively speaking. Those are basically the reasons.

MM

White men are not more feminine. That makes no sense whatsoever.

The real reason is the media making it a sort of fashion statement. Women like to follow trends, get the latest 'in' thing.

 

[Tomatoes]

..we can expect the mods any moment now.....

Maybe it wont even make it to 2 pages.

VashStampede....becareful how you put your views across please.

 

[DonGorgon]

I have noticed that on average White men get higher quality black girls than the quality of white girls that black men get.. I already know why this is though, and so do you...LOL

 

[Lord Shinra]

I personally have seen no big difference between either type of interracial relationship.

I've dated a few black girls (I'm white) and really the only problems came from her male friends. Other than that, no one really bothered with either one of us. My current FB dated a black man before, and I didnt really see a difference. At the end of the day, as was said earlier, black and white is just a looks thing.

 

[Alphamale1821]

I'm black and i frequently date white chicks. For me color isn't an issue more or less personality, looks and style. I'm naturally outgoing, handsome and i dress preppy and classy. So naturally i go for white girls because of style and personaity, it doesn't hurt that white women are damn sexy.

Don't get me wrong any chick of any color can be a possible candidate for me so long as she is attractive, classy and not ghetto, hood, trash or ignorant.

I'll date a classy black girl, but no hood rat as with a cute white girl, but no white trash. Same for latinas, classy but no "gangsta" chicks. Catch what i'm saying.

Ironically enough i've dated more white chicks then black chicks because i feel like it's very hard to find a "quality" black girl as opposed to find a quality white chick, just because of who i am. Maybe for other black men it's easier but i look for different things. their is nothing sexy about a chick with grill in her mouth and talks like she just ate some ****.

While i'm very aware that i'm a high value male, the wht chick in my arm is just an extension of who i am. You see a guy in Abercrombie and fitch clothing you automatically assume he will date chicks with the similar style. Most chicks in A/F are white.

 

[DonGorgon]

I'm black and i frequently date white chicks. For me color isn't an issue more or less personality, looks and style. I'm naturally outgoing, handsome and i dress preppy and classy. So naturally i go for white girls because of style and personaity, it doesn't hurt that white women are damn sexy.

i hope you are not dating white fatties like most black men do...

 

[Alphamale1821]

i hope you are not dating white fatties like most black men do...

lol when i said i stand out that means in every regards. I don't get the left overs I go for the best in every regards to my life. I weight 140lbs so i certaintly wouldn't be with a fat chick. Psh come on now read the post bro haha

IMO nothing classy about a fattie aside form maybe the food she eats MAYBE lol. Then again i wouldn't know.

 

[HalfAddict]

**** I'd Be all about one of those Hot as gangsta latino chicks.

They can cook, treat their man right, and whup someones ass.

 

[BBQsauce]

Don't worry about the social proof. that just means that they won't want to commit to you, which is a good thing if you don't want to pick up a ball and chain.