"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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How does game change after you've had sex?

wonderer

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How does game change after youve f*cked her? Does it change at all?

F*cked some girl last weekend fri and sat. We had sex 6 times, she said she came came 3-4 times one of the sessions. I f*cked the **** out of her and she gets wet when we talk about it.

But I dont know what to do now? Do I do what I was doing before when I was building attraction? Or is game different?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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VladPatton

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Just maintain your frame, and it'll keep her attraction up. Be cool, don't chump out and you'll do ok for a long time. You're also in the honeymoon stage, so drive that locomotive right into the woods, man!
 

wonderer

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VladPatton said:
Just maintain your frame, and it'll keep her attraction up. Be cool, don't chump out and you'll do ok for a long time. You're also in the honeymoon stage, so drive that locomotive right into the woods, man!
Thanks! Any other opinions guys?
 

El Suave

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Don't become too available. I've done that and crashed the whole thing.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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El Suave

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thelonewolflegend said:
Why does that mess things up? Wouldnt you want to see her as much as you want?
She still needs to chase you a little in order for her feelings to develop for you. It takes time, a little bit of push-pull for that. If you are available all the time, she will start to think you have no other options. She needs to feel like she is competing with other women to lock you down. You will then be on her mind all the time. :yes:
 

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I honestly don't understand the whole keep frame type advice. That has literally been my problem. I am more on the relationship wanting side of things for the main reason of having poon on tap and not having to wait till I get some more.

The issue I always run into is the girls always tell me they do not feel loved or I dont have emotions all that type of stuff. Basically I am not affectionate. This leads to them either being emotionally well and they just walk away or they become even more clingy and get driven insane.
 

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Look at what the AFC does upon getting laid. He acts like he is now in possession of the last vagina on earth and must protect it from other d!cks by any means necessary. He'll text the girl constantly, and whine if she doesn't immediately respond, thereby losing the frame.

So keeping the frame is just as much about what you don't do, as it is what you do.
 

gravityeyelids

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In short, you're good as gravy. A lot of the mind games and sh!t tests go away because you both know you're attracted to each other and want to fvck each other. I find I get more relaxed and confident after because I feel I have "won" the girl. It's good that you fvcked her well, because if the sex is boring..well thats not a good thing usually (unless you come back and fvck the sh!t out of her next time)

But you cannot slip up at all. Don't grow complacent. Don't be overly attached or available. This "long game" is something that takes a while for people to develop. Anyone with a moderate amount of game can bang a chick. It's a whole different ballgame and skillset to keep her interested for months and keep her in check and keep her respecting you and liking you. This is where your lifestyle choices and interests will pay off. Hopefully, as she gets to know you more and peels away the layers of the onion, she will find an interesting, well-rounded, fun, exciting man who is grounded in his own reality.

Keep the sex interesting. Do not fall into the "okay-it's time to have sex missionary style-okay-first-foreplay-okay-now-the-actual-sex-okay-that-was-fun-now-its-time-to-eat-routine". Make it interesting, switch up positions, have sex in public places, pull her hair, bite her, use toys, do whatever...just keep it fresh and you'll be good.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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