how do you look at someone who cheats?

[drak_ool]

i mean, how can i say this..

i don't necessarily think banging a pretty hot 25 year old is a "mistake". I think he knew damn well what he was doing and would probably do it again, as well as a lot of people who say they would not would.

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i'm not saying it's right or wrong, that's jsut how i feel. unless he's going around telling people that it's okay to cheat, i really don't see the big deal and it doesn't mean that i can't still have professional or even personal respect for the man.

That entire post is gold BB, couldn't have said it better!

I think that cheating is one of those areas where Europeans and Americans really show off their differences (good luck talking about "Western Civilization" as homogenous).

In France, Francois Mitterrand had an acknowledged love child, yet easily stayed in power for 14 years, becoming France's longest serving president. In Italy, Silvio Berlusconi's extra-marrital affairs did not interfere with his political life. Even though he was vilified by the left, no one suggested his affairs would force him out of office.

By contrast, in the US, anytime a public figure gets caught cheating the media is calling for his head. Please give me one rational argument why the Arkansas coach, or Anthony Wiener for that matter, cannot keep his job. He's getting paid to draw Xs and Os on a white board. As long as he can deliver Ws, who cares how many 25 y.o. he takes on motorcycle rides?

Please don't give me the "coach as educator" argument, because if the NCAA really cared about educating it's student-athletes, John Calipari, the ultimate cheater--because his cheating involved his job, because his cheating cost his employer, and because he is a repeat offender--would be out of a job. Instead, he is being paraded all over Kentucky at the moment...

"Kids look up to him..." Surely they look up to JFK Jr., whose picture can be found in thousands of schools across the land, a lot more for moral guidance. And yet the great man was cheating on his wife on Tiger-levels.

In the final analysis, it just seems to me that the US view of cheating public figures is very hypocritical...

 

[Findog]

That entire post is gold BB, couldn't have said it better!

I think that cheating is one of those areas where Europeans and Americans really show off their differences (good luck talking about "Western Civilization" as homogenous).

In France, Francois Mitterrand had an acknowledged love child, yet easily stayed in power for 14 years, becoming France's longest serving president. In Italy, Silvio Berlusconi's extra-marrital affairs did not interfere with his political life. Even though he was vilified by the left, no one suggested his affairs would force him out of office.

By contrast, in the US, anytime a public figure gets caught cheating the media is calling for his head. Please give me one rational argument why the Arkansas coach, or Anthony Wiener for that matter, cannot keep his job. He's getting paid to draw Xs and Os on a white board. As long as he can deliver Ws, who cares how many 25 y.o. he takes on motorcycle rides?

Please don't give me the "coach as educator" argument, because if the NCAA really cared about educating it's student-athletes, John Calipari, the ultimate cheater--because his cheating involved his job, because his cheating cost his employer, and because he is a repeat offender--would be out of a job. Instead, he is being paraded all over Kentucky at the moment...

"Kids look up to him..." Surely they look up to JFK Jr., whose picture can be found in thousands of schools across the land, a lot more for moral guidance. And yet the great man was cheating on his wife on Tiger-levels.

In the final analysis, it just seems to me that the US view of cheating public figures is very hypocritical...

If Petrino keeps his job, it'll be because his success as the coach will outweigh any personal disgust for his behavior. But if he doesn't survive, it's because he demonstrated poor judgment. He put his mistress on the team's payroll and didn't come clean to the Athletic Director until after the police report came out. If all he was doing was banging her, this would never have seen the light of day. If he loses his job, it's because he was reckless and stupid, not because he might be a bad husband. That's between him and his wife. Otherwise, I would agree that somebody being an unfaithful spouse has little bearing on their fitness and qualifications to hold a certain job.

 

[zekko]

In the final analysis, it just seems to me that the US view of cheating public figures is very hypocritical...

I completely agree with that. I don't agree with cheating, but the witch hunts that accompany scandals like this in the US are disgusting. It's a personal issue. I bet if you would take a look at the lives of the people that are calling for his head, they wouldn't stand up to close scrutiny either.

It's like when a celebrity dies from an overdose, somebody is going to have to pay for it. It's not like they just used poor judgement and self-destructed, someone has to go to jail. If it was some regular schmuck off the street, no one would bat an eye.

 

[backbreaker]

petrino had been fired.

watching the press conference now and it was mentioned that he gave the girl 20 grand during their affiar.

i'm thinking about the dude her fiancee. dude was seriously about to marry a *****. like a real life *****. and she had no qualms at all not telling him or gave a **** at all until it hit the fan now she is going into hiding and sorry for her actions. typical bull****

 

[Bible_Belt]

Wasn't she an employee, too? If so, she can sue him and the university for sexual harassment. And she'd win. They are probably drafting a settlement check for her right now, hush money to not sue.

 

[backbreaker]

Wasn't she an employee, too? If so, she can sue him and the university for sexual harassment. And she'd win. They are probably drafting a settlement check for her right now, hush money to not sue.

yeah that's why he was fired. he hired his ***** to be his assistant lol. and did not tell anyone that he was sleeping with her or paying her.

but her parents, i mean the entire nation now knows you raised a *****. and her ex fiancee, everyone knows you got ****ted on


from what i understand they aren't concered about her filing a sexual harassment lawsuit. there is no threat of that from what i understand. he was fired because he h ired his whroe and did not tell anyone and then told his boss to kick rocks afterwards when it was brought to his attention lol

 

[Findog]

Arkansas has sent a stern message: if you're gonna cheat on your wife, do it with a cousin or a niece, not your floozy that you put on the team payroll.

"As a Razorbacks fan, I was disappointed to learn that Bobby Petrino cheated on his wife and then lied about it." - Bill Clinton

 

[backbreaker]

you can take that **** somewhere else finddog. i'm an Arkansas born and bred and i am very proud of where i am from even though i don't live there now. that is not in any way shape or form representative of the state of arkansas.

 

[Findog]

you can take that **** somewhere else finddog. i'm an Arkansas born and bred and i am very proud of where i am from even though i don't live there now. that is not in any way shape or form representative of the state of arkansas.

No sh*t it isn't. Calm down, it's just a joke. I have friends that live in Fayetteville and I've been there several times. Anybody who has spent any time at all in the state knows it has more in common with other college towns like Lawrence, Kansas than it does, oh I don't know, Pine Bluff.

 

[SoldMySoul]

Ahhh...cheating. I am going to take the high road on this one. When married, I never cheated on my ex wife, but we did things together and that does not count towards cheating. Now in my single life after marriage, I have done some things I am not proud of and quite ashamed of if truth be told. My belief is if you are married, engaged or otherwise committed relationship, CHEATING is morally and ethically wrong. It looks bad on your character and it is worse if you are the crappy end of being cheated on. Does not speak well of your character.

I have been with married women and let me say, KARMA has gotten me back in it's own special way. Do I regret it now....being with married woman? Yes I absolutely do as I paid the price, not to mention I knew it was wrong.

I will never condone infidelity!!! If you do not want to be married anymore or with your loved one, be a man and get away. Besides, I saw what it did to my mom when I was in my teenage years as well as other people. It is the ultimate in betrayal!

Remember this: It takes more of a man to refrain from cheating w/ that hot piece of a$$ than it does to succumb to temptations of the flesh.