"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How do you go from friends to dating? (not the regular friendzone situation)

the_govner

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I don't have a problem with women in general, going from nothing to dating has been quite good for me.

However, I've known this one girl for awhile pre-dj and she's been a fairly good friend. Not very close, but we hang out maybe once every couple months and chat every now and then.

She knows I date a lot and I know that she sees me as a friend.

Any ideas as to how I ask her out on a date? The words to use? Don't want to be coming off as if I realized that we should be more than friends. I just want to date her and see if it goes well, nothing is certain.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Iceberg

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I don't know that you can "ask her out on a date".

At best, you guys can hang out together for a night on the town, have a few drinks, and try to escalate to something physical.

Something has to actually happen for her to change her perception of you as a friend. I don't think you can talk your way into it.

If what you're saying is true, and you guys are not-so-close friends, then maybe you have a chance.
 

zekko

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At best, you guys can hang out together for a night on the town, have a few drinks, and try to escalate to something physical.
I think that's the best strategy (although you aren't clear on whether you've actually been out alone with her before or as part of a group).
Just get her to hang out with you as usual, then try to escalate, kino, try to get a kiss, etc.

She may give resistance at first, and that's okay! She may need time to get used to the idea of seeing you in a different light. Just back off awhile then start again. She's either going to have to change her mindset about you or reject you completely.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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