"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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HOw do you get rid of the hint of desperation?

Raikojo17

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Hey guys. i officially suck at getting women.

I'm not just saying this to be a pvssy, but i've been analyzing my progress lately and i come to the realization of the many hangups that i have that stop me from being where i want to be. After all the first start to getting rid of a problem is admitting you have it, so there for i suck with women. I'm no expert at all, but i do know alot, and have learned, but I still yearn to improve

anyway, Lately i have been going through a dry spell and it sucks. I approach girls alot, often using the Gunwitch method.

I think mine might be alittle awkward though. I'm a very sexual guy, But i feel that sometimes i scare girls away with it.

I feel like i give them the horny creep vibe instead of the sexy horny guy vibe. I think this is due to desperation

I've resently been pondering whether or not i should try to ACF method so to say. Befriending a chick first, feeling her out, then trying to take it further. Afterall, a chick will know why you approached her in the first place, and the hint of mystery might be good.

I don't like this however. i think it takes too much work, and might more often than not put me in the friend zone.

how do you go about showing a chick your sexual side without coming off like a male elephant in heat?

the problem is that i'm only looking for some fun right now, no relationship BS. but i need a more effective way of weeding out the Girls who don't want the same thing. I want to have some fun with chicks without using them

Just looking for some tips :cool:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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HarlequinMan

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Hey man i feel your pain and I feel like many guys go throught his....the only advice i can think of right now is that in order to show sexuality without looking like a creeper you have to use kino from the moment you meet (handshake). Keep progressing the kino at a pace that is good for you. ex; when you talk to her push her a bit or hug her when she is sad...then move on to hugging her every time you see her...etc.
 

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ok, please re-read your post and see if anything in there is creepy? Dude, if the love of your life, the one your destined to be with forever walks by you and introduces herself and you get all the feelings of love and an absolute sureness about her; woild you tell her that "I am sorry I am just wanting to fcuk other girls right now? HELL NO. So dont give this excuse, you are protecting yourself from all the pain that comes with love and relationships, and if your not willing to take that chance then no girl will.

If your ok fcuking girls that are attention *****s, with problems, etc then yes go out there and meet the drunk ass girls that have all the diseases.

Man the best sex with women are when you are in relationships because then you get to know what turns both of you on.

Now if you really just want to play the field then all the power to you, but it gets old very quick.
 

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trd323 said:
ok, please re-read your post and see if anything in there is creepy? Dude, if the love of your life, the one your destined to be with forever walks by you and introduces herself and you get all the feelings of love and an absolute sureness about her; woild you tell her that "I am sorry I am just wanting to fcuk other girls right now? HELL NO. So dont give this excuse, you are protecting yourself from all the pain that comes with love and relationships, and if your not willing to take that chance then no girl will.

If your ok fcuking girls that are attention *****s, with problems, etc then yes go out there and meet the drunk ass girls that have all the diseases.

Man the best sex with women are when you are in relationships because then you get to know what turns both of you on.

Now if you really just want to play the field then all the power to you, but it gets old very quick.
what the **** is this ****? Who let my mom in here?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Raikojo17

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trd323 said:
ok, please re-read your post and see if anything in there is creepy? Dude, if the love of your life, the one your destined to be with forever walks by you and introduces herself and you get all the feelings of love and an absolute sureness about her; woild you tell her that "I am sorry I am just wanting to fcuk other girls right now? HELL NO. So dont give this excuse, you are protecting yourself from all the pain that comes with love and relationships, and if your not willing to take that chance then no girl will.

If your ok fcuking girls that are attention *****s, with problems, etc then yes go out there and meet the drunk ass girls that have all the diseases.

Man the best sex with women are when you are in relationships because then you get to know what turns both of you on.

Now if you really just want to play the field then all the power to you, but it gets old very quick.

Lol I agree man, but i'm not scared of a relationship at all. infact, i already know the girl i wanna marry. And yes, the feeling is mutual, but we are not together

I just want some fun. In a sense i want to improve myself. I want to prove that i can get results if i try hard enough, that i can be so confident in myself so that i can go for what i want.

that being said, if i want a chick, i want to go up to her and let her know that i want her.
 

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When you get stuck start at the beginning.

This weekend go out and try to get rejected.

Right now you're too worried about being succesful that you're outgaming your game.
 
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