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The fact that she or any other girl you may see,has been fvcked by/fvcking other guys before you?

Also,what about "status anxiety" ?
 

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nvm, just my own overthinking. I have been way too overthinking this, in my mind, it's the top,"alpha" super succesful guy who get's all the chicks,which is true, or jerks/nice guys, but what if you are just a regular dude,who's has had some social screw ups over the years,and isn't getting girls as much as he would like to?

Plus,I found this forum recently, http://revolution31.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4080, and I like it as well...
 

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status anxiety, or not feeling good enough. Or, guy with all the money,fancy,rich looking clothes, eats at all the fancy restauraunts,the hippest bars, into the scene of sorts, well educated,is the one with the most success,whether in life or with women. Know what I mean? I am not caught up in anything like that,for I tend to not care so much. I am for the most part,just a regular dude.

Well,that's just it. It seems by the time they are 18,or even 15,they have had there fair share of ****,and have been pretty much used and passed around, or am I just overexagerating here? Whereas me, I haven't had my fair share or the pvssy,so this causes some issues.


Here's a good post I read:

"You've pretty much nailed it on the head, my friend.

I am fortunate to have, as uncles, two guys who would be considered "naturals" by the community. They are the sort of guys who can walk into a room and within 5 minutes, have people around them, chatting away like old friends. They're fun-loving, social guys who are interesting to talk to, are good listeners, and make the most of their looks.

I posted this on another thread, but I'll repost it here. It was a summary of AFCAdam's e-book, that a socially awkward friend bought. I told my him, "Dude, I could have told you this over a drink at the pub!". It all boiled down to -

a)Talking to them in a casual, friendly way, finding commonalities like an old friend would. Keep the conversation positive, letting her talk about herself.
b)Not hanging around her too much; instead, socialising and showing you're a cool guy to have around.
c)teasing her a bit, dropping a little innuendo into the conversation when appropriate, not being afraid of vocalising a disagreement (so she knows you're not just "Me-tooing" to impress her.
d)Challenging her to prove herself to you, in a fun way.
e) Getting the number with a reason to meet again. Because you've established things in common, you can arrange meeting to do one of those things.

This is what my uncles "taught" me this **** back in the day, when they said

"Assume she likes you, tease her like you'd tease a mate, let her talk, see if she's got anything in common with you, find a reason to like her (not cos she's got big boobs!), and see her again to do something fun together. And if she doesn't want you as a lover, you'll be a mate who's a cool guy her mates might like! Unless she's a slapper, don't come on too strong first up. Don't care whether you get a number or not, just go out and have fun with people. That'll be a change from all the nervous or drunk guys who hit on her. And don't make yourself too available or eager."

Heck, they were teaching me the Tao of Steve!

Be Desireless
Be Excellent
Be Gone

Not saying there isn't good advice in the community, but to any well-adjusted, social guy, this sort of thing comes across as overcomplicating a part of life most of us figured out at High School. Guys who can approach a woman and make small talk are seen as superhuman. Guys who get laid on a regular basis are seen as "Naturals".

Socially awkward guys like my mate get sucked in by all the bull**** that you can get any girl you see, and anyone not banging 100s of girls is a loser.

I know Brent Smith is hated on by a lot of guys for his advice "Be indifferent", when he has money and good looks aplenty, but he is right. When you obsess over getting laid, and obsess about how the interaction is going and whether you'll get laid, it'll **** you up. Your body language will be off, you'll try too hard, and you won't treat women like human beings.

Knowing how to make appropriate small talk is useful. A lot of people don't listen - they just wait until the other person has stopped talking so they can talk about themselves again!

Knowing when she's giving you signals that she's interested or attracted is vital, too.

Being aware of how to present your most attractive qualities is necessary.

But turning all of this into a "system" messes you up. If you only see women as targets, and success as getting numbers or getting laid, then you'll end up getting depressed when you don't score. You'll spend hours obsessing over what you did wrong in one particular interaction, when really, you just weren't her type.

No one gets laid constantly. Even good looking guys can go through dry spells. Not every woman will fancy you. Facts of life. Nothing will change that.

Having your sex life sorted is a part of life we all should get right, but it is not the only thing worthwhile in life.

Ben"

I mean, I am still caught up in the "I haven't slept with x amount of women,therefore,I cannot be happy. Or I am/was a loser for not having it sooner." All this negative self talk that I am just starting to try and get out of. Maybe it's just not knowing how to be happy, or social enough, or lack of game.
 
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It's also finding the effort or will to do what I want to do,rather than just daydreaming about it. Just having that high energy,get up and go and do it.
 

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You need to be I.P banned. Off this site forever.
 

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why should anyone give you, CapedCrusader, any advice if you never listen to it?

because somebody else will read it

My last girlfriend had probably been with over a hundred guys. I have known her a long time. She was the town ho as a teenager, then married to a friend of mine who knocked her up, then got divorced and bounced around to a dozen different boyfriends. I knew her well, and she would tell me the crazy things she had done - lots of threesomes and other girls. She had a lot of true stories that read like made-up letter to Penthouse. She still calls me, but I like my current girlfriend better.

I think what she liked most about me was that I honestly did not judge her for her past behavior, which was why she was so open with me about all of it. Being judgmental will not get you anywhere with women. They have all of society to cast judgment at them for their sexuality. They don't need more of that in a man. Women want to be accepted. And the more they have been around, the more important that is.
 

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I couldn't be with someone like that. Over a hundred guys? Nuh uh. Something aint right about that. But alas,perhaps I am or have been to judgemental,cause I feel people would do the same to me. I am really,really trying to get past all of this stuff. I promise,I won't flood the boards.

As for advice taking,I admit, it's hard for me to listen at times. I tend to just say what I want to say and try and get a discussion going. I mean, I have a problem that's been bothering me, and I am trying to get out of it. It could be a maturity problem, or a motivation problem, or a social problem of sorts. I feel that I still have this almost child like view of things,esp dating and sex. And realities of it. I mean damn, I am now starting to see how much looking at porn has affected me. I mean, too much. Like to where maybe I just am unable to I don't know if this is the right way to put it,but sort out my emotions. Cause to me it has seemed like it is suppose to be this big free for all fvck fest,which is a dangerous way,cause of the whole humanity thing.
 

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GuyInNeed09 said:
I am really,really trying to get past all of this stuff. I promise,I won't flood the boards.
You're not going to flood the boards,huh? Ok,fine. Now admit it. Admit that you're really CapedCrusader08.
I want to see you admit it. You might as well,I mean I had you pegged from your first post under this new name.

Oh yeah,one more thing:Why did you switch from SobchekSecurity to this new name? What,did your Sobchek name get banned or something?

Just curious......Crusader.

This better be you,because I'd hate to think there's another guy out there who acts,behaves,types,and refuses to take advice exactly like you do who just somehow mysteriously decided to join up here. That would mean there's two guys who'll make 500 threads per day.

And we just can't have that,now can we?
 

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Well, I guess there is no fooling you guys is there. Yeah. The other name got banned. I only did it so I could come back onto the boards.
 

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So what's your reason for doing this? I mean, you post on here so much and get tons of good advice but never seem to do anything other than whine on here... I guess I just don't see the point of you coming back over and over again. If you just want to vent, you should start a blog or something because it's really getting old.

I used to be a lot like you. I bet I was just as depressed, but I didn't whine about it as much. I got a lot of good advice on here and am working on changing my life... am I 100% happy now, of course not. But I'm a hell of a lot better off than I was before I started coming here, and I'm getting better every day. Why don't you take some of the advice people are giving you?
 

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Well,Like I said, I have a hard time taking advice. It's a little bit of stubborness and lazyness, and frustration.

It all comes from a depression, and just not knowing what to do. Like all this success was supposed to have happened, or I was to have done this that and the other thing by now, and instead of looking forward and getting it done, I get frustrated by the fact that I haven't yet. That's what it is. I mean, the goal and want for success is there, but the way on how to achieve it is all confused and screwed up.

Getting out there and doing it,that's been the problem. That's what's lead to alot of this anger and frustration. Alot if it has to do with I guess just making things alot more complicated,like that post I made about the guy's two uncles,than they really are.

Also,it could be an imaturity through lack of experience,and how I see women,sex,relationships.
 

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Dude, you're really really REALLY depressed. So you just need to go to a psychiatrist. Twice a week. Maybe you need medication. I don't know. There's no point in getting on this board constantly and use a new name and write the same gibberish over and over again.

You need to:
- Go to a psych
- Get a proper diet. Stop eating sugar and fast food. It get's you depressed and fat.
- Go join a gym and go there three times a week.
- Go running.
- Read "The How of Happiness" by Sonja Lyubomirsky.
- Do whatever everyone told you before on this board.
- Stop sitting on your ass, cause it gets you nowhere.
- Go make a plan and work on it every day two hours. In the weekends 5 hours a day. At the end of every week you did 20 hours of self improvement.
- Go find out what you want in life and work towards it.
- try mindfulness
- stop watching porn
- go to a psychiatrist
- get off the board for a month and come back and tell us what you've done to improve yourself.
 

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I am trying to contact a therapst now. I have been thinking about taking meds. As for dieting and exercise, I have been trying to make that a better priority. I will be off the boards for a while. I will come back and say what I have done. Thing is, I already know that once I start, it's gonna lead to more confusions,uncertainty,and feeling(s) of,why didn't I do this sooner? Why didn't I get up off my ass sooner? Why didn't I improve sooner? Why have I constantly kept myself down? Why am I not further ahead? I mean, maybe I either need to start with little things, or really make an effort to break out of my shell.

In real life, I am normally not like this, I don't go around with this negative vibe trying to bum others out, but it's cause I have to keep it inside and I feel like I am quietly suffering.
 

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23,almost 24. Not even gonna get into how much it feels like things haven't changed as much as I would have liked. However, I was reading this: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=158802. I can say, that has never been me. I feel I am not afc in that I do whatever women tell me to do, constantly do things, please them,be a pushover,etc. However, when it comes to gaming them, trying to get laid, I feel I come up short. Either it's inexperience, or not being the a-hole they all want to bang, cause as we all know, they like being treated like sheet and don't change all that much till they're older, cause women,are stupid.

It's also my own crippling mentality. I try to get driven,motivated,think like a winner,etc, only to lose steam quickly. Could it be an over stimulation?
 
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