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How do you get a girl who's in a set with multiple people?

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Went to college today, approached a sh*tload of sets of girls I didn't know. Got a lot of good results and a few bad. I think my best approach was when I asked this girl if she wanted to play pool. Over the game we just naturally connected and she showed interest. But a big problem for me was most of these sets weren't one girl, but several girls. This the reason I didn't try to escalate because as much as I looked, most girls were with multiple people.

So I'm not really asking how to talk to girls in multiple sets, I know how to do that. But what I'm asking is, how do you take a girl away from her friends so you can escalate and go for the kiss?
 

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"You mind if I go talk to your friend for a bit?"
 

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Rhoto said:
Are you living on campus?
Nah. But reason I'm asking this is because trying to go for the kiss close when she's with her friends, EVEN if she's interested will result in ASD.
 

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Get the number and eject. Go for a kiss when you control more variables to your advantage (like isolating her).
 

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dude you should get her number and take her out before you attempt a kiss close imo ... Most girls will not kiss a random guy off the street, maybe in a club but not on college campus.

Elstud did you make any guy friends in college, maybe u should start there so you have some social proof when you go out sarging. Thats my opinon...
 

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Prodigy746 said:
dude you should get her number and take her out before you attempt a kiss close imo ... Most girls will not kiss a random guy off the street, maybe in a club but not on college campus.

Elstud did you make any guy friends in college, maybe u should start there so you have some social proof when you go out sarging. Thats my opinon...
Well your opinion probably isn't very reliable it's very possible to kiss close a girl you just met. You're limiting yourself and thinking to logically by saying it's not so. Maybe you're one of those guys who like to take it slow, but don't go saying it's not possible. Infact, you can kiss a girl any place, I've seen this seduction video of a guy picking up a perfect stranger and number closing and kissing her on the same day.

You're too reactive to the environment. The kiss is only awkward if you think so.
 

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ElStud said:
Well your opinion probably isn't very reliable it's very possible to kiss close a girl you just met. You're limiting yourself and thinking to logically by saying it's not so. Maybe you're one of those guys who like to take it slow, but don't go saying it's not possible. Infact, you can kiss a girl any place, I've seen this seduction video of a guy picking up a perfect stranger and number closing and kissing her on the same day.

You're too reactive to the environment. The kiss is only awkward if you think so.
You're such a duchebag. The guy gives you his opinion and you have to rip it apart? Where did he say it was impossible? He made a suggestion.

But hey, who is anyone to tell the great elstud what works. We all know how you escalated and got the kiss close on the infamous hooker. You tell him champ.

Besides, why are you even approaching and going for action? I thought you were set on getting to know women and being their friends nowadays.
 

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This a mans forum not a childs forum. Please leave the name calling for kindergarden.Their isn't one reason that you can't pick up a girl on a college campus and it's been done millions of time. Infact, that's one of the purposes of pick up, being able to pick up a perfect stranger off the street.

Also know this advice is coming from the guy who made a topic asking "smile and wave at her acceptable?". In his "opinion" you can only approach and get the kiss close in the club, which isn't true at all. I'm just not gonna listen to limiting advice like that. Other than that I'm definitely trying the other non self limiting advice everyone else gave.
 

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ElStud, of course it's possible. But that doesn't mean that your goal should be to k-close within a couple minutes. If that's all you care about, then just be a funny, ****y, cool guy and pull the girl somewhere where her friends aren't looking and go for it.

However, I would recommend you concentrate and getting numbers first, ejecting, and then asking girls out on dates you can be more effective on.
 

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She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ElStud said:
This a mans forum not a childs forum. Please leave the name calling for kindergarden.Their isn't one reason that you can't pick up a girl on a college campus and it's been done millions of time. Infact, that's one of the purposes of pick up, being able to pick up a perfect stranger off the street.

Also know this advice is coming from the guy who made a topic asking "smile and wave at her acceptable?". In his "opinion" you can only approach and get the kiss close in the club, which isn't true at all. I'm just not gonna listen to limiting advice like that. Other than that I'm definitely trying the other non self limiting advice everyone else gave.
ROFL i know i am not getting bashed by EL Stud ahahha.
Anyway unlike you i am a man enough to admit that my mall game sucks and i was just asking a question if that was appropriate for the mall game or public place game. I am also man enough to say that i have never approached a girl in the mall or coffee shop so you will never see me give advice to people looking to approach in malls. See when i make threads asking for help i actually listen to what people have to say and try to learn from it unlike certain someone.

When it comes to college game i am pretty good. My first semester in college i got 12 numbers including a number that was just given to me by a chick without me even asking. During my 2 years in college i have probobly gotten 30+ numbers and dated half of those girls. So dont judge people by one thread that they make..

If you havent noticed everyone else is telling you the same thing i did. Most college girls on campus will not start making out with a complete stranger they just met 10 mins ago. I am not saying its impossible because there are sluts out there but most girls will not do it on college campus. Parties = YES, Clubs=YES, College campus in broad daylight = NO. Usually when girls are willing to do it , they have some alcholol in their system that lets go of their defense system and they stop caring what others will think.

I am giving you descant advice here, stop being the weird loaner who is sitting in the courtyard by himself and than trys approaching random girls. I thought you would learn something from your highschool failures. Go out there get some friends, go out with friends and meet girls at parties. Meet girls during classes (one of the best times to meet girls IMO).
 

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How you going to give kiss close advice when you paid for your only kiss? Oh yeah, the same way you give sex advice as a virgin.
 

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ElStud said:
This a mans forum not a childs forum. Please leave the name calling for kindergarden.Their isn't one reason that you can't pick up a girl on a college campus and it's been done millions of time. Infact, that's one of the purposes of pick up, being able to pick up a perfect stranger off the street.

Also know this advice is coming from the guy who made a topic asking "smile and wave at her acceptable?". In his "opinion" you can only approach and get the kiss close in the club, which isn't true at all. I'm just not gonna listen to limiting advice like that. Other than that I'm definitely trying the other non self limiting advice everyone else gave.
Firs of all you never even kissed a girl and here you are trying to do something that is very hard to do. Second you need to learn how to kiss girls when you are alone with them in your room or when you have actually gone on a date. You need to learn to walk before you can run. Let go of your ego and realize that most guys here are more experienced with girls than you are and are trying to help you. You have 2000 posts and you have never even been on a freaking date, that should be enough to tell you that you have no right bashing anyone.
 

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Break up the pack, it's the only way. Hang out late, when everyone goes home, you stay.
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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