"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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How Do You Define Seduction?

How do you define seduction?

  • You have sex with her

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • You get her highly interested

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • You move the relationship forward (number, kiss, second base, etc).

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • You achieve intimacy

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • You get her to compliment you

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • You get a(nother) date with her

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (please describe)

    Votes: 1 20.0%

  • Total voters
    5

bigneil

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In Robert Greene's Art of Seduction he refers to "Beware the After Effects" (of seduction). At what point would you say a seduction occurred?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Seduction is about taming the women physically and emotionally. So "achieving intimacy" would seem the obvious choice for when it first occurred.

Everything else can be seen as gamey or unpersonal (even ONS). e.g. Would paying a prossy for sex be consider seduction/persuasion? I think not.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
seduce
[si-doos, -dyoos]
Spell Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
verb (used with object), seduced, seducing.
1.
to lead astray, as from duty, rectitude, or the like; corrupt.

2.
to persuade or induce to have sexual intercourse.
3.
to lead or draw away, as from principles, faith, or allegiance:
He was seduced by the prospect of gain.
4.
to win over; attract; entice:
a supermarket seducing customers with special sales.
I'll go with (1). Project power, make her fall for you, dominate. Bend her mind and actions, through power of will alone. There is so much more to seduction than just sex. I get a huge kick just off flirting and playing games alone, although I try not to lead girls on if I don't want them. I know, I'm a narcisstic b!tch.
 

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Purposely Manufacturing attraction with the opposite sex via conversational tools.
 

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Interesting replies, everyone, thanks.

The reason I chose "Move the relationship forward" is that it seems that with each step in the courtship, we reach a sort of wall. Once a woman takes things past a certain point she knows she is obligated to pick up where she left off, and thus we encounter resistance, and it requires another seduction to overcome it.

He who does not move forward falls behind, so there are points when we must take things to the next level or it dissolves.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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