"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How do you deal with the passive type?

Lost In the Seas

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How do u deal with a girl that is very passive, the type that wants the boys to do ALL the the approaches?

That seems understandable since some females prefer the men to be the absolute dominant controller of the relationship.

But by making too many moves wouldn't it be obvious that you are desperate and very interested in the girl, leading her to believe that she has gotten control of your heart which elinminates the chase factor that drives the girl to be crazy for you.

I see a conflict of idealogies here and wonder how you resolve this.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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MightyMate

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Very simple. You dont ask questions, You give orders.
Thats how i deal with chisk. At 1st they say that nobody ever spke to them like that, later in LTR they keep saying that im tracking em like **** and they dont know why they are with me, because usually they were giving orders.. And i always say the same - You love me because You are fully under my control. mosta of You wouldnt act that anyways.
 

Fender

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Well, when dealing with passive girls, you gotta first show her that you are a healthy/normal/good-natured person and that it is OK to share and talk. To do this, you gotta start talking about yourself and share a few stories with her (be prepared to do 98% of the talking in the beginning).

Get her laughing, get her interested in your life, and she'll slowly open up. This would then be a good time to ask a few open ended questions. But if she doesn't respond too well, go back to talking in statements.

After a while, is her mouth is still shut, you can probably tell that the girl has no neuronal connections whatsoever, so just eject. Alternatively, try groping her and see what happens. She might just be too horny to be able to talk ;)

-fender-
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Lost In the Seas

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I think i am past that stage, we have talked quite a lot, however it is usually i am the one asking her questions and she is the answering.

Like i asked her about her childhood, and she told me loads, but when she asked me back i wouldn't say much, just to be a mystery. She told me what type of men she wants and when i was asked i told her silly answers and never straight and true ones.

Ya i think i am past that stage, the question is there a way to approach a girl that wants you to make all the moves without inflicting the image of needy and desperation.
 

Damian

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It seems to me that you've already created a comfortable friendship with this girl. Spend a day using some routines and then go out with her. Do a number close or even a kiss close. Try to initiate a good kino routine. Just DO something to progress the relationship before you permanently fall into the LJBF zone.

-Damian
 
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