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One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

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How do you deal with the independent career minded mature (Age 25 +) christian women?

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How do you deal with independent career minded (mature Age 25 +) christian women?

These women seem to be about marriage period. I mean some the game works but not as good with them as with other women. It's like their terminators programmed to tie you down in marriage. Once they realize that your not ready to settle down it's game over. I talked to an older friend of mine who happens to be christian and married (7 years) a christian women and he basically confirms it. He said that while their are some wannabe christian women out their the real ones are looking for serious commitment(marriage)

Whats really bizarre to me and it opened up my eyes is that some of these women will stay single until they find the target.This girlfriend of mine who knows women like these says they are patient and strong minded in their pursuit. These older girls 25+ above seem to be a lot smarter than the average girl i meet on a regular basis.

It's like they don't want to waste time if your not willing to settle down. These women i'm talking about are not your average women looking to leach off you. They have money/career and live on their own ie house or condo.

Maybe i should just stay away from these women, but to be honest these women really turn me on in a big way. It probably has to do with the scarcity of these women that makes me desire them, but i can't help it. Anybody have any experience with the women i'm describing here? If so i would value your opinion on handling this type of women.
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Almost every woman over 25 is all about getting married. Some just hide it better than others.

If you want a girl who is not in a rush to get married, find one who has recently gotten divorced. Those women have already had their special day, and have realized that it did not end up all that special.
 

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INDEPENDENT- Strike 1

CAREER MINDED- Strike 2

CHRISTIAN- Strike 3

Have fun buddy.
 

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STR8UP said:
INDEPENDENT- Strike 1

CAREER MINDED- Strike 2

CHRISTIAN- Strike 3

Have fun buddy.
To say I have different tastes from Str8up would be a laughable understatement.

>Independent, in its simplest form, means not dependent. Dependancy is a weakness, not a strength. If you want a needy, moocher in your life, definitely go for the "dependent" women.

> "career minded" - is a nice way of saying, "has a life". You'll never see someone described as both a "loser" and "Career minded" at the same time because this would be an oxymoron. "career minded" means this person will likely have a paycheck that they could share with you. "career minded" people (including women) will be less likely to be needy.

> "Christian" = "self-imposed moral control". This is generally a good thing, especially if said woman could end up being your wife. "Christians" are obligated to be good, honorable people. One can do much worse than to be partnered up with a "good, hnorable" person, even if said person is behaving that way because they feel like they have to.

If you're not a christian and she is (and actively practices/lives by her faith), you will always have a power edge. I do not speak from just theory here. Christians think they are tall on their knees. That's a major advantage that you'll be able to exploit.
 

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You deal with them the same way you do any woman. All they basically want is a man that will be fun to be around and will be up to taking control when he needs to. The only thing different is they have a set of values they won't bend.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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frank007 said:
These older girls 25+ above seem to be a lot smarter than the average girl i meet on a regular basis.

Careful. I was dating one of these for a while...and you know why she seemed smarter? because as I got her life story I found out how much she had been through to get smarter. One night while she was on her knees for me she says "you know some people used to think I was a big freak" then she asked me to shoot my load on her tits because I usually *** bucket fulls and she can't swallow it all. We went to church the next day.

Just remember...that strong independent career oriented christian stuff can just be front because they know they aren't gonna land a man with their old hoe-ish ways. They seem smarter cause they are trying to land a decent symp, they found out they couldn't lock down no players or pimps.
 

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Are you guys serious!!!!???. How can someone have great values(christian) a bad thing.2) career oriented is a negative as well?? 3) and independent strike 3? And No they all do not want to get married, but they do know what they want at the moment.

What the hell do you guys look for in a women? I have dated a doctor that encompasses all three qualities and it was a great 6 month relationship. I have dated advertising directors as well.

These women DO NOT want BS from guys trying to "game" them. They see through it all. Why are you guys so afraid to show your true selfs.

You guys are all looking for no substance in a girl. the sorority type that is an attention *****, that listens to her friends instead of trusting her instincts. And you come here trying to fix all these girls and you wonder why she plays games with you, its because your playing games with her. Remember girls have been playing "games" since they grew tits.

Grow the **** up.
 

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STR8UP said:
INDEPENDENT- Strike 1

CAREER MINDED- Strike 2

CHRISTIAN- Strike 3

Have fun buddy.

Amen.

I'd rather sit on upside down barstools than have to deal w/ one of those b#tches
 

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Warrior74 said:
One night while she was on her knees for me she says "you know some people used to think I was a big freak" then she asked me to shoot my load on her tits because I usually *** bucket fulls and she can't swallow it all. We went to church the next day.

Great story :) My last four girlfriends have all been independent Christian career women. My last girlfriend was a graduate student; one night after an evening at the strip bar, she blurted out in bed, "I want you to sit on my chest, pull my hair, cvm on my face, and call me a 'fvcking wh0re!!!' We went to church the next day. And my current girlfriend is ten times better in bed; she never says no to anything. We went to church last Sunday.
 

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Treat her like any other /s!ut/ ho/ b!tch/tease.. cause under their hypocritical facade that is all they often turn out to be....

Or you could be super nice to her and get walked on and abused then come here complaining that you thought her obsession with "god" would make her a better person less prone to infidelity and promiscuity...
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Great story :) My last four girlfriends have all been independent Christian career women. My last girlfriend was a graduate student; one night after an evening at the strip bar, she blurted out in bed, "I want you to sit on my chest, pull my hair, cvm on my face, and call me a 'fvcking wh0re!!!' We went to church the next day. And my current girlfriend is ten times better in bed; she never says no to anything. We went to church last Sunday.
The bolded part is noteworthy. Girls say the darnest things lol. I think what some cynical ol' bastards like STR8UP (I say that jokingly) here are saying is independent, career-mined and christian is just added subterfuge and smokescreens on top of what smokescreens you have to deal with from the garden-variety girls. In other words, they're redflags for craziness. BB you seem to have a penchant for the crazier girls, and you seem to do well with these crazy christian type girls. You should do more threads on the topic.
 
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frank007 said:
How do you deal with independent career minded (mature Age 25 +) christian women?

These women seem to be about marriage period. I mean some the game works but not as good with them as with other women. It's like their terminators programmed to tie you down in marriage. Once they realize that your not ready to settle down it's game over. I talked to an older friend of mine who happens to be christian and married (7 years) a christian women and he basically confirms it. He said that while their are some wannabe christian women out their the real ones are looking for serious commitment(marriage)

Whats really bizarre to me and it opened up my eyes is that some of these women will stay single until they find the target.This girlfriend of mine who knows women like these says they are patient and strong minded in their pursuit. These older girls 25+ above seem to be a lot smarter than the average girl i meet on a regular basis.

It's like they don't want to waste time if your not willing to settle down. These women i'm talking about are not your average women looking to leach off you. They have money/career and live on their own ie house or condo.

Maybe i should just stay away from these women, but to be honest these women really turn me on in a big way. It probably has to do with the scarcity of these women that makes me desire them, but i can't help it. Anybody have any experience with the women i'm describing here? If so i would value your opinion on handling this type of women.
Are you asking a question or venting?
 

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I don't see any problem. These women have values and standards, they want a guy that is compatible with their goals of marriage, family and Christian values. If you aren't what they want, they next you. Why's this any issue? It's saving your time and their's.
 

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I'm not saying those sort of women should be avoided at all cost, if you are looking for marriage then go for it, if your not, leave on good terms you may want to come back. Just make sure you tick off all red flags, you test the hell out of her, watch for incongruence and make her work for it. Don't think just because she professes to be these things, she is this things. Good girls can be freaks, but they had to learn it from somewhere. Both eyes open.
 
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