"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How do you deal with guy friends?

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I've been playing this 7.5 latina by the book of pook, she is totally hooked.
Now...she has alot of guy friends, and frankly I dont give a f---k. But I would live to know what would be the correct non-AFC behavior in response? Meet up with my girl friends to make her jealous?
She is very jealous and hot tempered so this would be a easy task, or should I just play it off like nothing and hang with my boys?

Advice please! :rockon:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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either way. but i like the idea of getting her jealous. sometimes you mess with them, and they bend over backwards to show you THEY are the one for you
 

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Joe Stud said:
either way. but i like the idea of getting her jealous. sometimes you mess with them, and they bend over backwards to show you THEY are the one for you

I am only worried that she will back off or get turned off by this...thoughts?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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she probably isn't ****ing her guy friends... i would definately try to befriend their friends as much as possible because they can be able to lead you towards more girls.
 

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xdreamz said:
she probably isn't ****ing her guy friends... i would definately try to befriend their friends as much as possible because they can be able to lead you towards more girls.
Agree with this, don't fight them, embrace them. Meet them and get them to like you.
 

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It depends on where you want this to go.

As a general rule, show indifference.

If you want an LTR, you can act a *little* jealous sometimes. It makes her feel like you give a ****, without making you look desperate. Even if you don't care that much, or aren't that worried about it, acting like you are a bit jealous by playfully teasing her about "her other boyfriends" can work just fine. Just remember to keep it playful, showing real jealousy reeks of insecurity and will turn her off fast. In the mean time let her get a little jealous by getting some innocent chick-friends. Don't **** them, or rub it in her face too much. Doing that will only make you seem like you are trying too hard to make her jealous -- which is seriously insecure, and may just make her angry enough to drive her to ****ing other people. The main thing is to just remember that you are the prize, and all of these guy friends are of little significance to the power of your game. If you act congruently to that fact, you're gravy.

If you don't care that much, talk to other girls. Whether or not you **** them is up to you, but demonstrating that other females compete for your attention will make her want yours more.
 

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yea but don't be over friendly.. just be nice to them and it will work out.

edit: yea i should be a little more specific, in a party atmosphere (not clubs) with not that many people it is pretty effective to just conversate and find some commonalities. sports, music, weed...all that stuff will make a friendship be there. in the clubs its a little different...
 

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How do I deal with guy friends? I don't. And I let the girl know this right when she asks to be my "girlfriend". If I ask a girl out and we keep hanging out, she can see whoever she wants. If she wants a relationship? No "guy friends" or I'm gone. Why? I'm a guy. I know what guys want. And I've been through enough situations where Mr. Guy Friend decides he wants something more and either tries to fight me or yells at the girl or more drama.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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It's all right........ if u have a good time!
Guy friends are no threat at all as long as you are not jealous and you get on their good side. Even if they are total AFCs and they try and ****block you, if you have gamed her right it won't make a difference.

If I were you I would put more effort into getting on the good side of the girl friends as they are more of a threat to you, she will actually listen to them.
 

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What bothers me though is that when she meets with her guy friends (which she apparently has known since she was a teen/kid) they watch movies sometimes or go out and eat dinner.
As a side-note, I am leaving for Brazil for 2 months soon, could this have anything to do with it? She has told me that "we'll see what happens when you get back", and I told her yeah i'll see if you've been a good or bad girl in a playful manner.

I can't forbid her to meet her guy friends, or tell her that she probably shouldnt go home to her guy friends or eat dinner with them. But I still dont find this acceptable, you have a boyfriend, you dont do that stuff with guy friends. It's a matter of respect, what if she was eating out with some guy friend and someone from my family saw her there. They'd be like wtf?
 

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fuzzx said:
Where in Brazil are you going? I'm moving to Sao Paolo (Butanta) in 5 days for 4 months! If you are around, we should hook up for a burger and a vitamina.
: )
Damn it's a small world! I'm moving to Rio for 2 months in 2 weeks!
I'll take you up on that offer if i'm around your neck of the woods, but i'll rather do a feijoada and a guarana/acai drink :D
 

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Recently got dumped by my girl because of a "nice-guy" friend of hers.

If I could have done things differently, I would have gone along with her when she meets her guy friends. I think that's the best way to can try and suss out the intentions of her guy friends.
 

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Update:

She called me up yesterday night and we somehow entered the subject. Since she was complaining on me watching a movie with a old fling (I did this after her "dates") and we agreed on not being alone with friends of the other sex at home etc. She followed this up by telling me how much she likes me and misses me (haven't seen her for what, 3 days?). Well, i'll just go with the flow and see if she is worthy in the long run.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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