"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I have been talking to this hb9 off and on for about a month now. I have been having a difficult time trying to make her attraction raise at a constant pace. My problem lays with my competition. she has a lot of social status through all the guys who keep chasing after her. At the moment she has 6 guys who are all over her, so as much of a great guy I am she can take me for granted. I am contemplating on just moving on as the only reason I am attracted towards her is to validate that I can get any girl I want (ego).
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Originally posted by illmatic20
I have been talking to this hb9 off and on for about a month now. I have been having a difficult time trying to make her attraction raise at a constant pace. My problem lays with my competition. she has a lot of social status through all the guys who keep chasing after her. At the moment she has 6 guys who are all over her, so as much of a great guy I am she can take me for granted. I am contemplating on just moving on as the only reason I am attracted towards her is to validate that I can get any girl I want (ego).
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man, be different. don't chase her, give her a reason to chase you :)

at least don't be all over her like other guys, neg her instead.
 
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Sounds like you are spending to much effort and time on this girl. Not that you are doing a horrible job, but since she's got 6 guys chasin her.

Move on, go nail a 7. Though it might 'just be a 7', it's still a lot higher then most guys will attain.
 
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Re: Re: How do you deal with a girl with high social status?

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man, be different. don't chase her, give her a reason to chase you :)

at least don't be all over her like other guys, neg her instead.
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If it was only that easy my friend. This girl is so difficult. She was once hurt in a relationship so she found measure from prevent herself from falling for a guy. One of the things she does so well is keep herself busy 24/7. She doesn't allow me to give her the gift of messing me. She joined a ton of athletic clubs (swim team), goes out with girl friend on the weekends, and hangs out with a lot of guys during the week. Again, I point out the reason I want her so bad is because she sticks out like a sore thumb. She giving me a thrill of the chase that most girls have been to easy and about neg hits. She gives me neg hits, which is hilarious. She actually bust my balls often. If I didn't know any better I would think she making me attracted towards her.
 
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Re: Re: Re: How do you deal with a girl with high social status?

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If it was only that easy my friend. This girl is so difficult. She was once hurt in a relationship so she found measure from prevent herself from falling for a guy. One of the things she does so well is keep herself busy 24/7. She doesn't allow me to give her the gift of messing me. She joined a ton of athletic clubs (swim team), goes out with girl friend on the weekends, and hangs out with a lot of guys during the week. Again, I point out the reason I want her so bad is because she sticks out like a sore thumb. She giving me a thrill of the chase that most girls have been to easy and about neg hits. She gives me neg hits, which is hilarious. She actually bust my balls often. If I didn't know any better I would think she making me attracted towards her.
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dude...

when a girl negs you that means she likes you and feels at least a little comfortable with you..

thats a VERY good sign..
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by SparkleMotion
Sounds like you are spending to much effort and time on this girl. Not that you are doing a horrible job, but since she's got 6 guys chasin her.

Move on, go nail a 7. Though it might 'just be a 7', it's still a lot higher then most guys will attain.
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Your right, reason why I am thinking of moving on. The time and effort might not be worth the satisfactation that comes from forfilling my ego and I have tried 7 before, they bore me. I have a thing for witty and intellegent women who know there ****, it my kryptonite.
 
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Re: Re: Re: Re: How do you deal with a girl with high social status?

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dude...

when a girl negs you that means she likes you and feels at least a little comfortable with you..

thats a VERY good sign..
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Well, this get complicated. How do you know she just not like that around all guys. I don't know her well enough to assume that she likes me. It could just be her way of being friendly. I try to take it with a grain of salt.
 
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by the way, i've been in a similar situation before, with an HB9.5 that EVERYONE wanted..

well guess what, we became friends, in the meantime i had fun and ****ed other girls, and when the time was right BOOM! in like flynn!

the HB9.5 ended up being my girlfriend for 6 years, and although we are not together anymore, it was an awesome time we had together that made me smarter, more secure, and more confident than i ever was..
 
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Originally posted by Egoist
by the way, i've been in a similar situation before, with an HB9.5 that EVERYONE wanted..

well guess what, we became friends, in the meantime i had fun and ****ed other girls, and when the time was right BOOM! in like flynn!

the HB9.5 ended up being my girlfriend for 6 years, and although we are not together anymore, it was an awesome time we had together that made me smarter, more secure, and more confident than i ever was..
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I will consider your idea, but honestly I am not good with having a girl as a friend. I can't related towards them. If I really wanted a friend I would have a guy as we have more in common. If I wanted sex or cuddling I would get a girl for that. I am also young and to consider serious relationship is a bit crazy in devoting so much of yourself towards someone when both partners are still a bit immature (guys atleast admit it).
 
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Originally posted by illmatic20
I will consider your idea, but honestly I am not good with having a girl as a friend. I can't related towards them. If I really wanted a friend I would have a guy as we have more in common. If I wanted sex or cuddling I would get a girl for that. I am also young and to consider serious relationship is a bit crazy in devoting so much of your yourself towards someone when both partners are still a bit immature (guys atleast admit it).
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dude..

work on relating to women. it really does help, its kinda hard to do without it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by Egoist
dude..

work on relating to women. it really does help, its kinda hard to do without it.
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got links, tips, books, etc...??? reason why I posted wasn't to rant. I was hoping someone could help me out.
 
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Screw that. You don't need to relate to women. Any man worth his salt realises they ain't relatable to anyway. They have their thing, you have yours. In between is... whats been there for a million years; attraction. That's what counts, not 'relating'.

This guy says he's young, and he sounds it. He sounds like he's perfectly capable around the girls anyway, get off his back.

Listen dude. This girl aint worth this. She's become talismanic to you, a symbol that you don't need to saddle yourself with. Move on and **** ten other women; you'll be able to sneer at this hottie and mean it.

I guarantee you'll feel better after even the first alternative you bed. What would you rather do; pig out one time, or keep yourself constantly fed? And don't give us any crap, we know you're waiting around for this one girl. A man only has so much energy and time in a day! Drop her and get to it.
 
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some of this advice is good, some of it is bad, but here is some solid advice: BE THE ALPHA MALE AND "TRUMP" all competition. This perfect little angel of yours is going to have sex with the badest and meanest guy that is amongst her. 6 guys chasing her, and you already know so much about her... could you be an emotional tampon for her? Could you? You want to date her, but... she is busy... with sports/bla/bla/bla so she doesn't have time to miss you... right?

WRONG. She isn't THAT busy, she still has time to get nailed by the jerk who will get her time anyway he sees it.

BOTTOM LINE: Stop respecting her just because she has a great body. You don't owe her anything. You are not having sex with her at the end of the day. So far all you have gotten from her is grief/boredom/anxiety (good or bad, you know what I mean I hope). Take what you want, when you want. It would take a radical shift to salvage this, so LEARN from this mistake. Forget her man, and the next girl who gives off the "oh i'm so hot, my time is so precious, I am going places, oh im scared, wait but i'm so busy and have so much fun and know so many cool people" bla bla bla she is still getting pounded by the jerk anytime and everywhere (I KNOW, MY BEST FRIEND WAS THE GUY DOING THIS WITH 3 OF THOSE TYPES OF GIRLS ALL LAST YEAR) But get this, she used to laugh and joke with him about how these guys she used and treated like little kids, sons sometimes, she didn't like them, but felt bad telling them straight off she wouldn't mess with them. Dude, as you can see from my unorganized rant, I have met quite a few of these girls. FORGET HER, she is garbage, and don't play into her reality. You are better than her, and that reality of hers. GOOD LUCK!
 
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Originally posted by illmatic20
I will consider your idea, but honestly I am not good with having a girl as a friend. I can't related towards them. If I really wanted a friend I would have a guy as we have more in common. If I wanted sex or cuddling I would get a girl for that. I am also young and to consider serious relationship is a bit crazy in devoting so much of yourself towards someone when both partners are still a bit immature (guys atleast admit it).
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Don't know what your age is, but some of us can be quite mature in our teens, some of such as us don't realize it until they find that they have more friends and are closer with friends that are older.
 
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anyways, you already put her on a pedestal, and are buying into her 'busy' ****, you might as well learn from this site instead of trying to navigate your way out of this nosedive.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Thanks for everyone advise and letting me know of my errors.

Btw, you guys must admit this is a bit hilarious. Girl feeding me lines that a guy would say "I am busy, I am the prize, I have all this guys after me, etc.."
 
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