"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How do you deal with a girl who is extremely shy?

Tazman

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There's a decent looking girl that works with a friend of mine. She is 21 y/o and has never had a boyfriend. I have spoken with her briefly when I asked her to call my friend who was at the back of the store at the time. Later I told my friend to tell her that I was interested in getting to know her. From there my plan was to ask her out myself.

He said when he told her there was a long pause....then she said she needed a confidence booster because she's not good at things like that. Here I am, a 26 y/o virgin, and this girl would be such a great way to get back into the game, but she's extremely shy and/or insecure. I'm at a loss as to how I could get her to open up to me so I can get to know her.

I don't want to try too hard because then I'll come off as desperate (even though I am at this point), which isn't a good start. How in the hell can I make this work, or is it possible? I told my friend to ask her if it was ok to give me her number so I could try and talk to her to break the ice. I didn't want to approach her at her job because it's not the best place to talk about this sort of thing. Approaching her after work might scare her so I just don't know........
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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26 and a virgin?

WTF is wrong with you? Go to an escort and get laid.
BTW shy girls are the freakiest type of women.
 

DJDamage

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I don't want to try too hard because then I'll come off as desperate (even though I am at this point), which isn't a good start. How in the hell can I make this work, or is it possible? I told my friend to ask her if it was ok to give me her number so I could try and talk to her to break the ice. I didn't want to approach her at her job because it's not the best place to talk about this sort of thing. Approaching her after work might scare her so I just don't know........


You act like a highschool teenager sending your friend to do your dirtywork for you instead of you going over there and try to open up to her and get her number.

Women are looking for a man that will take risks and not a boy who will send his friend.

Stop over analyzing and go there and ask her out yourself. As well stop obssessing over 1 girl you barley even know before even dating her. Its unhealthy as well as you sabotaging yourself from meeting other women.
 

Tazman

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The reason I had my friend ask her is because he told me prior to going into this that she's really shy. I didn't want to approach her at her job because she's busy with customers and I'd have to stand in line and ask her in front of everybody. I figured that would make it even more awkward for her and I'd get shut down simply because she'd be too uncomfortable.

I see what your saying about having him do the dirty work but if she's this timid how can cold approaching her work? I was prepared to do that until he told me she was extremely shy and has never had a boyfriend before. It's like I have to warm her up some how without being too forward...hell I don't even know what she would consider as being forward.

Maybe I messed up by asking him to get her permission to give me the number. If she says no, then moving forward might spell disaster.......
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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How have you managed to survive in society? I could barely make it 16 without having sex, and you over here, haven't even had sex at the age 26.

Dude, get over there, and talk to her. Eliminate your thoughts of being rejected. If you need help in getting laid, read Gunwitch's method, you'll find it in the DJ bible.
 

Tazman

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I could've had sex at 16 but I didn't go all the way because I was insecure about the shape of my c+ck(it curves down when erect). I also had a bad problem with acne, which made me avoid social gatherings and I became more introverted(I was shy to begin with). I have since cleared up my acne and I'm trying my best to overcome my shyness but its extremely hard.

Women my age intimidate me because I know I'm supposed to have had "experience" with women well before I turned 26. You're right, rejection is hard for me. That's why I was trying to get this one girl, she's 21 and never had a bf. I figured it would almost be a chance to start all over without the embarrassment of having a chick dump me for my lack of experience.
 
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