"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How do you compete with a popular guy who's gaming the same girl?

Brighty

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Here's the scenario:

- I'm a junior, along with "Popular Guy A"
- The girl we're both gaming is a sophmore, but popular in her own grade
- Both grades intermix a lot at parties


I'm finding it increasingly difficult to game this girl that popular guy A is gaming. Popular guy A is a uglier, stupider, weaker than me, and all around sleezebag... yet somehow she finds him C&F or whatever and is starting to see him. I have all of these advantages over him except for one thing; he hangs out with the popular kids and I'm just middle-class in the high school social chain. He goes to the popular parties and I'm usually only invited to about half of them, and more likely than not, since she's popular as well in her own grade, she probably gets invited as much as he does.

I've already let her know what I think of Popular Guy A and most of his friends - that they're a bunch of fake tools (popular guy A actually tried to stage a fight with one of his friends to get this girl to think he was a hardass) and that I felt sorry for her that she was interested in popular guy A.

So what, is this situation hopeless just because of where I rank on the social hierarchy?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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In high school, yes.

**** it though man, college is like nothing like highschool

high school isn't the real world you should like make a **** ton of money. I sure as hell wish I did back then instead of chasing around high school girls and going to parties. Partying never stops.

High school parties are a waste of time. :up:
 

Brighty

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Well how can I compete with him if hes getting invited to all of the popular parties and I'm not?

How could I turn this around?
 

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Brighty said:
Well how can I compete with him if hes getting invited to all of the popular parties and I'm not?

How could I turn this around?
Just snag her. Make a move. Girls are oddly loyal when possessed.

The complete opposite of their male counterparts.
 

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get the guy alone once and have a nice little man-to-man conversation. Just dont hurt him too bad.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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best man wins. i say be the better man. sounds like you are him. she just doesn't know it yet. fukkin get in there. make yourself known. the only reason the other tool gets invited is bcoz he is known and he is out there. thats what you need to do.
 

Brighty

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swifTy said:
best man wins. i say be the better man. sounds like you are him. she just doesn't know it yet. fukkin get in there. make yourself known. the only reason the other tool gets invited is bcoz he is known and he is out there. thats what you need to do.
I'm trying to, but nothing seems to be working... how?!
 

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Shut the **** up.


Ask her out, or watch your boyfriend ask her instead.


You're both being blue-ballers about this. Stop trying to "win" her approval, stop trying to beat some other fag, just ask her out.


You talked to the other dude? How ***** are you?


You want her? Go get her.
 

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Quiksilver said:
Shut the **** up.


Ask her out, or watch your boyfriend ask her instead.


You're both being blue-ballers about this. Stop trying to "win" her approval, stop trying to beat some other fag, just ask her out.


You talked to the other dude? How ***** are you?


You want her? Go get her.

No, that was some other person saying I should go talk to him. I don't talk to him.

Its posts like this that get my psyched up and ready to just go out there and ask her out, but once I get out there hours later, I'll of forgotten this stuff and I'll start becoming afraid like "well, she's already hooked up with two popular guys a few months ago, if she's so concerned about popularity, what's she going to see in me?" and become a ***** and chicken out. I kick myself for it and I want this **** to change. Theres gotta be some way I can get my testosterone and confidence up and stay up, regardless of some ****y high school social heirarchy.
 

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Quicksilver is right.. You're sitting here complaining about some dude, saying the things he is and isn't, yet he's in a position you want to be in.

First off, stop trying to qualify yourself to this girl. Second, stop bashing the other guy to the girl. She will see what she wants to see and as of right now, it looks as if you're the dork from "Not Another Teen Movie".

High school is a crazy place. People have their social groups and everything. People have that mentality that you're either cool or you're not. My junior year, I came to a new school and had to make friends. I guess by accident, I ended up in the "cool group". I never considered myself a cool person, but through them, I became popular. Only problem was the fact that they were all seniors. After they graduated, I felt lost. I kept thinking that I needed to find another "group" to belong to.

Eventually, I became comfortable in my own skin. People still knew me from the previous year and I used it to my advantage. Instead of becoming part of a group, I became part of myself. I would talk and hang out with everyone. In turn, I became more popular than I was the previous year. It's all about people knowing who you are. Get out there and introduce yourself. Also helps if people can relate you to something. In my case I was a brain and band geek. (sounds bad, but girls are actually attracted to smarts and talents)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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swifTy said:
best man wins. i say be the better man. sounds like you are him. she just doesn't know it yet. fukkin get in there. make yourself known. the only reason the other tool gets invited is bcoz he is known and he is out there. thats what you need to do.
True, she will always pick the cooler dude.

Who over has MORE "GAME" will always win. In this case it seems like the guy has more game than you, he also has the advantage of his social circle and being the so called popular guy.

Step your GAME up...
 

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I always hated BS like this, where guys can be uglier/skinnier/dumber etc and somehow still have the popularity advantage in a given environment. This probably tells you all you need to know about how messed up people are these days. That's why I like cold approaching I guess.
 
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