"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How do you casually date?

Bourne

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I don't want a relationship. I want to date and spin plates. At what point and how do you tell a girl you taking out to coffee, lunch, date etc that. When? As soon as possible? When the conversation comes up? How do you tell her? How often do you see them? etc

I'm lost on this subject.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Bourne said:
I don't want a relationship. I want to date and spin plates. At what point and how do you tell a girl you taking out to coffee, lunch, date etc that. When? As soon as possible? When the conversation comes up? How do you tell her? How often do you see them? etc

I'm lost on this subject.
A quick answer to your question is that you ask girls out for "dates" like those you mention before you get to know them. It's difficult to "ask out" someone you're already generally aquainted with, someone with whom you are in the "friend zone." That's because the first time you ask a girl out it should be a pretty casual request, and if she's already your friend, that type of request is going to seem like you're just inviting her to hang out as normal. Usually I ask a girl out the second or third time I meet her. When things are starting out, you probably want to limit it to one real "action" date a week, with perhaps a mini-date thrown in during the week.
 

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If you go out with a girl enough times, she'll eventually want to know your intentions for the two of you. At that point, you can simply say that you enjoy spending time together with her and having fun while at the same time seeing where everything goes from there. A comment similar to that won't lead her on because your stating a "possible" future as a couple while not "guranteeing" it.
 

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True Realness said:
If you go out with a girl enough times, she'll eventually want to know your intentions for the two of you. At that point, you can simply say that you enjoy spending time together with her and having fun while at the same time seeing where everything goes from there. A comment similar to that won't lead her on because your stating a "possible" future as a couple while not "guranteeing" it.
This is true to a point. The woman will wonder only if you do things that allow her to believe that its serious. Things like seeing her frequently will do this. If a guy is truly dating around, he will only see a particular woman once every couple of weeks or so; he'd be too busy to see her any more often. If they only see one another infrequently, how would she get to the point of considering dating unless he brings it up.
 

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light kino

How about less kino? I'd think if you weren't laying the heavy kino on her or making a pass on the couch than it could be considered a "Friendship Zone" date. Obviously, if you haven't kissed by the 3rd or 4th date than she'll want to wonder what's up, who else you might be with, and why you haven't escalated the kino. I like what the above posters said as well. See her less often and spin plates in between so you don't across needy and have options. Also, occasionaly flake on date with your "busy" life... since girls do that to us all the time! Here's another question: how do you keep dating her without leading her on or either of you two become attached?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Bourne said:
I don't want a relationship. I want to date and spin plates. At what point and how do you tell a girl you taking out to coffee, lunch, date etc that. When? As soon as possible? When the conversation comes up? How do you tell her? How often do you see them? etc

I'm lost on this subject.
Well, you can't just casual date a bunch of times and not expect a woman's emotions not to eventually kick in..more than likely, she will want to know if the relationship will escalate after awhile.
 
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