How do women judge a guy's looks as in physical appearance?

[JaegerPilot217]

But does the guy who is suave actually have "status" in a manner of speaking in that he would be considered high value among women? I mean, if a guy comes across smooth and it looks like he has a lot of female options, isn't that a form of "status" in itself? In fact, aren't good looks even a form of status, in a way? Not in the traditional sense of the word, but in effect?

I'll need more proof about the being broke thing

 

[bigneil]

Sorry, being a fan of Avicii, I take a bit of offense to this. The singer of "Wake Me Up" is not Avicii; Avicii is a DJ / music producer. The singer on that track is Aloe Blacc. Aloe Blacc is a 35-year-old black man, who actually, FYI, is not gay. If you had watched the video just once you would see both of them.

I stand corrected.

So it's just a coincidence that a gay-looking man produced a song for a gay-sounding man. But they did NOT under any circumstances hump. They are not like that!

Side note: I don't think we can use famous people as examples of attractiveness, due to both top-down media corruption (see Justin Bieber, and name one song by him that I know) and the circular logic used by women. In fact, if you were famous, you'd never know if people really liked you for you or not. The best thing you can be is anonymous but someone who can walk into any room in any state and become the center of attention. It's done by focusing on everyone else, one by one.

If a guy comes across smooth and it looks like he has a lot of female options, isn't that a form of "status" in itself? In fact, aren't good looks even a form of status, in a way?

Yes and yes. A man can buy his way out of a slump basically (or be a gigolo, but that is more rare). That's why, for a man, money and attractiveness are interchangeable. The rich guy with the chicks (in one way of another) paid for them. Why do you think Charlie Sheen still pays for hookers? Because they are far cheaper than wives, and look at the track record of Hollywood wives - look at what Sterling's girl did (and as a matter of fact I did NOT hear what he said, while being illegally wiretapped (a felony violation of his Fourth and Fifth Amendment) by someone he trusted in the privacy of his own home, per the First Amendment, but I can say looking at his girl and the people he pays that he supports people of color).

"I have dozens of friends and the fun never ends, that is as long as I'm buying"

-Styx 1981

 

[3agle 3yes]

What really erks me though is when I see a guy who is the anti-thesis to what I consider to be an "attractive man" with an attractive woman.

I saw it today, the guy was unkept (his hair was a complete mess) and his body language suggests he was an utter fool and it completely threw me off...it is actually one of the very few things that piss me off...I'm doing fine myself but I'm seriously depressed about it right now...is this normal?

Especially when I didn't even see the woman's face, though due to where I was, the other women I saw and the way she was dressed I assumed she was attractive.

 

[DonGorgon]

1. race
2. looks trends

 

[Jaylan]

But does the guy who is suave actually have "status" in a manner of speaking in that he would be considered high value among women? I mean, if a guy comes across smooth and it looks like he has a lot of female options, isn't that a form of "status" in itself? In fact, aren't good looks even a form of status, in a way? Not in the traditional sense of the word, but in effect?

So now all of a sudden looks and personality are status? Lets not start mixing this all around. Each are their own thing. When we talk of status on this forum, we generally speak of fame and money. Now does someone's looks and personality carry their own importance and possibly create perceptions in other peoples minds? Yes. But let's not call it status, as here we usually have an agreed upon meaning more the word.

Also, I feel youre making the assumption that a girl automatically believes that a guy who is suave is entertaining a ton of options. This is not always the case. Also, many times a woman interprets a guy as being more charismatic because her attraction to him made banter flow better in the first place.

Ive seen good looking men pull women easily despite the girl knowing for a fact that the dude didnt have much cash. Ive had it happen to me personally. The woman wanted to get it on because she was physically attracted to me...not because she assumed I had money or other women chasing me. Same goes for personality. How many times have we heard guys complain "whys she with that guy?". We all have known or seen a guy who didnt have loot, wasnt model looking, but got his girl because their personalities clicked. This happens with people all the time.

I think a guy should strive to find a woman whos attracted to him on the basis of his personality and appearance. Because thats always unique from person to person. The way you relate to someone personality wise (emotional and mental attraction), and also the way their presence affects you physically (sexual attraction), is unique between every person.

A good looking woman can find status with more than enough men. And these women are usually leeches. Which is why I disagree with neil's point...I dont think status is interchangeable with other things that draw a woman to a man. Guys can date whoever they want, but I think you find more genuine women when you take status evaluations out of the equation.

I dont want a chick banging me because of what she thinks she may be able to sponge of me. I want her with me because of how we relate and our true attraction for each other as people. Thats just me though. I dont get hung up on status. If guys can pull with it, by all means...but it doesnt feel real to me. Status has its part in dating, of course...but I dont feel it creates the same attraction a woman feels for a man who shes mentally, emotionally, or physically attracted to. I feel a woman gets all of that generally from a guys personality and physical appeal.

 

[3agle 3yes]

I agree with Jaylan on this one.

I was supposed to post this earlier.

Anyways, My viewpoint is that fame generally attracts women who want to leech and benefit of your accomplishments. I feel that a mans look and personality will usually bring in the women that actually wanna fck him because he gets her wet.

Exactly, money doesn't make women wet...why is this difficult for some guys to understand?

The average rich man either fvcks whöres (even though they're celebrities as well as rich: Charlie Sheen and Tiger Woods e.g.) or if they find themselves in a relationship with an attractive woman they get married because she wanted him for the money.

The primary reason the woman is there is the money NOT the man.

Like briefly mentioned in this YouTube clip:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x0gaYyNk7QA

First 2 minutes and last 2 minutes.

 

[zekko]

When we talk of status on this forum, we generally speak of fame and money

You're right of course, but here's what I was trying to say:
They say looks, money, status, and game attract women. Of all of those, "status" might have the most vague definition. It refers to a man's place in society, his standing. Like you say, usually this refers to fame or money. It could also refer to political power, lineage, or the like.

I was saying maybe if a guy was good looking and good with the ladies, doesn't he have a certain "status" among women? Kind of like a social proof? Like he's high on the ladder of men that women might want.

Exactly, money doesn't make women wet...why is this difficult for some guys to understand?

Money in and of itself might not make women wet. But a man who is successful, a man who has his sh!t together, a man who can command others, a man who is valued for his skills and knowledge and can turn that into cash - that man can get a woman wet. I think a lot of guys here fail to understand that.

Men are not women, and women are not men. Women are not solely attracted to looks, if they were they would be just like men. That's why they say looks, money, status, and game.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

1. race
2. looks trends

race is taboo to talk about on here but I feel like it plays a big part in your looks. even doing well with women isn't about looks so I have had friends from all backgrounds get hot girlfriends and wives but looking good can only make it easier and boost your confidence.

what I find is that with women, men are less judgmental of race and consider all races of girls hot. even if a guy isn't into black chicks, meagan good is attractive to him. With men I find it is almost exclusively white dominated with the occasional token black guy. Like as if women equate race with looks while men equate good looks with looks.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

That said, I know we mention tall dark and handsome whenever we think of the stereotypical good looking guy but I have found that it really varies too. Like girls I know from progressive, working class, or highly diverse areas areas tend to fall for the Cristiano Ronaldo lookalike but girls from the suburbs and rich neighborhoods who end up going to the private universities want nothing to do with that kind of a guy. These girls tend especially when they are young want a Liam Hemsworth lookalike.

It could be useful information for a lot of guys on here who might be good looking and doing poorly because of aiming for girls in the wrong areas.