"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How do women judge a guy's looks as in physical appearance?

HowardHughesDicaprio

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I have to say I just don't get it sometimes when girls find Avicii to be hot and handsome yet I have known better looking guys that girls do not consider attractive. Maybe I am really bad at telling what makes a guy good looking but I have known plenty of tall and decent looking guys that girls do not consider to be good looking. Like I have even known guys with classically handsome features that girls openly said were plain looking.

So how do most girls in general judge a man's looks and physical appearance? How do they determine if a guy is good looking without even knowing him?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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He's famous. That's why. Just be a high value guy that isn't fat and balding (meaning unshaved head with hair loss) and girls will rationalize that you are attractive even when you are average.
 

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The guy you mentioned is a good looking dude in my opinion OP. I could see him doing well with women even if he wasnt a well known DJ.
 

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HowardHughesDicaprio said:
I have to say I just don't get it sometimes when girls find Avicii to be hot and handsome yet I have known better looking guys that girls do not consider attractive. Maybe I am really bad at telling what makes a guy good looking but I have known plenty of tall and decent looking guys that girls do not consider to be good looking. Like I have even known guys with classically handsome features that girls openly said were plain looking.

So how do most girls in general judge a man's looks and physical appearance? How do they determine if a guy is good looking without even knowing him?
Simple. Every woman is different. Another thing, if you simply take care of yourself and dress the way from which it reflects your personality- you're most likely attractive. There is no "universal" scale of attraction that all women cater too. True there may be certain qualities that stay the same, such as confidence, discipline, and taking care of yourself. But everyone is different and generally raised differently. Attraction isn't a choice.

You can be rejected by an ugly woman yet be accepted by a hot one, the point is not every woman will find you attractive because it isn't a choice. We all have illogical preferences.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Women like men that are ugly cute nowdays I swear. They don't like the classical good looking guy. And its funny you say shave your head I forgot to shave my balding head, ending up bagging a chick that night. The secret? I just didn't give a ****
 

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I am sure even though all women have their types, there are things that make men universally attractive. Women might not like blonde hair on a guy but those same women would go for Chris Hemsworth. BTW anyone else see the tall "dark" and handsome thing dying out recently? Seems like the swarthy southern european look doesn't do it for girls anymore.
 

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If you are really famous, you can be the ugliest guy on the planet and hot women will want to sleep with you. Its as simple as that.

I use to be a Cruise Director for a popular cruise line for several years and I was the face you saw on the T.V.s welcoming you aboard, I was the voice you heard over the loud speakers all day long, I was the main guy running the entertainment & shows so at night time when I was off work and hanging out with guests I got approached by women that were MARRIED, had BOYFRIENDS, ON THERE HONEYMOON true story, and they want to go to my cabin and party with me. Aka fvk.

When I got back to land, I was a nobody. Had to rely on going to the gym, dressing well, talking smooth etc.

So the answer to your question is FAME & What you do for work.

Imagine a hot girl asks two average guys what they do for a living. Guy A says hes an accountant. Guy B says he signs new artists to a well known record label. Who do you think she is gonna go after? ;)
 

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spiegel549 said:
I use to be a Cruise Director for a popular cruise line for several years and I was the face you saw on the T.V.s welcoming you aboard, I was the voice you heard over the loud speakers all day long, I was the main guy running the entertainment & shows so at night time when I was off work and hanging out with guests I got approached by women that were MARRIED, had BOYFRIENDS, ON THERE HONEYMOON true story, and they want to go to my cabin and party with me. Aka fvk.

When I got back to land, I was a nobody. Had to rely on going to the gym, dressing well, talking smooth etc.
This is depressing to me just reading it. How can you see women as more than two-faced talking toys when you've experienced this first hand?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Frayzer said:
Simple. Every woman is different. Another thing, if you simply take care of yourself and dress the way from which it reflects your personality- you're most likely attractive. There is no "universal" scale of attraction that all women cater too. True there may be certain qualities that stay the same, such as confidence, discipline, and taking care of yourself. But everyone is different and generally raised differently. Attraction isn't a choice.

You can be rejected by an ugly woman yet be accepted by a hot one, the point is not every woman will find you attractive because it isn't a choice. We all have illogical preferences.
OFT.
 

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This is how I broke it down on a recent post under "Anything Else":

I see a man's value to a woman as a point system.

For the sake of this discussion let's say each below is worth up to 5 points:

Natural looks = 5
Image (bad boy, geek, etc) = 5
Body = 5
Money = 5
Status at work = 5
Status socially = 5
C&F/confident attitude = 5

35 is perfect

If a guy was butt ugly from birth but perfect in every other way he could still get 30/35 and probably do quite OK with the ladies.

Realistically we are all probably somewhere between 12 and 25, and which girls value us will depend on the girl.

But my point here is that even an ugly guy still has a chance.

I don't think it will ever be 100% based on looks.
 

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I don't think men are good judges of which men are attractive. One reason for this is women are attracted to masculine and testosterone based features. Which are not the things men look for when they look for attractive women - not at all.
 

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Women are attracted to what men PROJECT. Often that has to do with clothing, and it always has to do with body language and attitude.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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zekko said:
I don't think men are good judges of which men are attractive. One reason for this is women are attracted to masculine and testosterone based features. Which are not the things men look for when they look for attractive women - not at all.
Speaking of which, Im super jealous of dudes with dem dere jaw genetics. Women swoon over Matt Bomer even though he is gay. Dude just has great aesthetics.

Im already a lean dude, but cant seem to loose that slight roundness in my jaw. The little bit of cheek fat wont go away. A chiseled jaw is ideal.

It could be worse though. I couldve ended up with Dwayne Wade chipmunk cheeks.

Anyways, My viewpoint is that fame generally attracts women who want to leech and benefit of your accomplishments. I feel that a mans look and personality will usually bring in the women that actually wanna fck him because he gets her wet. Ive seen more than enough good looking broke guys, or suave guys without high status do well with the ladies without having to spend a dime (figuratively speaking on the dime part)
 

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If you're jacked, that always helps, but an average looking guy who's famous will clean up anywhere. Fame is an aphrodisiac to women.

Spiegel is right, your status means EVERYTHING to women.
 

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God, is Amiici the one who sings that faggy song they play every 5 minutes?

He sounds like a 17 year old gay black man to me.

His voice makes my skin crawl, and yet he has 356 million views on Youtube for "Wake me up". It's not even a good song.

It's because he fits the New World Order mould for the feminized, weak man that would cry if he ever saw a soldier. He's half Tom Brady, half Gisele Bundschen. God help us.
 

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bigneil said:
God, is Amiici the one who sings that faggy song they play every 5 minutes?

He sounds like a 17 year old gay black man to me.

His voice makes my skin crawl, and yet he has 356 million views on Youtube for "Wake me up". It's not even a good song.

It's because he fits the New World Order mould for the feminized, weak man that would cry if he ever saw a soldier. He's half Tom Brady, half Gisele Bundschen. God help us.
Sorry, being a fan of Avicii, I take a bit of offense to this. The singer of "Wake Me Up" is not Avicii; Avicii is a DJ / music producer. The singer on that track is Aloe Blacc. Aloe Blacc is a 35-year-old black man, who actually, FYI, is not gay. If you had watched the video just once you would see both of them.

No worries if you hate the music, we all have different tastes, but the song lyrics are actually nice. I really have no idea what you mean in reference to Tom Brady and the New World Order, or how they even fit into the picture here. Seems a bit off tangent.
 

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Jaylan said:
Ive seen more than enough good looking broke guys, or suave guys without high status do well with the ladies without having to spend a dime
But does the guy who is suave actually have "status" in a manner of speaking in that he would be considered high value among women? I mean, if a guy comes across smooth and it looks like he has a lot of female options, isn't that a form of "status" in itself? In fact, aren't good looks even a form of status, in a way? Not in the traditional sense of the word, but in effect?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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