"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How do ugly guys get girlfriends

jafyk

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DJSebast said:
I've read most of the replies and a lot are about how the ugly guys can get lucky and that they were in the right social circle or other sh*t like that. But have any of you considered that the ugly guy has game, what if he is a Don Juan.. Looks don't really matter that much if you can show alpha-ness to the max, according to the bible...

But I'm still a beginner so what do I know..
You lad have shown maturity beyond your years. At least you are soaking up what you are learning on this site.
I felt like giving this post a sarcastic response but maybe the OP is genuinely clueless. Let's observe some things

Women and men don't always approach relationships the same way. Men for the most part are drawn to looks and outward appearance initially and may go ahead to mix in other factors (personality, style etc) later. Women on the other hand tend to be more feelings oriented. So, depending on her backgrounds it may not really how a man looks but how he makes her feel. Stirring up a woman's feelings especially the good kind leads to attraction. Which in turn leads to her deciding on sticking with a guy (especially if she's loyal or there are no other better guys who cross her path). Other factors go into how women pick such as status, fame, power, wealth and wealth. So, if a man knows how to push the right buttons in a woman especially her feelings. He can get with her. Other times a man is simply being used for the other factors I mentioned previously.

Sometimes it could also come down to a woman's esteem. Some don't realize their worth and settle. How many times do you see beautiful women who most guys would kill for still indulging their insecurities or going out of their way to seek attention. So, I think the OP's question is usually a sign of naivete on how the dating game works.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I can't speak for everyone else, but for me it's a kick to the balls when I see a hot girl with an average/below average guy. Why? Because I know that same girl would stick my @$$ in the friend zone or turn me down for a date if I asked her, but yet she's with some other doofus who I know I have more to offer then him. I guess it's this latest streak I've been on lately where women want to shove me into the friend zone and there's not a d@mn thing I can do about it. I'm not acting like a friend, I'm not afraid to make a move, but it's hard to make a move when you keep getting shut down. Have I always been like this? He!! no! I've dated my fair share of good looking women, but I'm in this funk and there's no end in sight. It actually makes me NOT want to date or approach women because I think "wtf is the point? She's just going to stick me in the friend zone or she'll give me the I have a boyfriend excuse".

It also makes me think "well if she lowers her standards for him, then when is some hot girl going to lower her standards for me??"
 

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backbreaker said:
This girl was on a level that I had not yet been with. she was really half black half native american, long jet black hair, high yellow, curves, just BAD.:crackup:
Yo man, there's a lot of people on here who aren't aware of how black people describe themselves. To the uninitiated, you need to explain what "high yellow," means.
 

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Closer68 said:
The hotter the chick, the less she cares about your looks.
somehow, i found this to be totally true. mediocre girls care the most about how a guy looks. maybe they are compensating for something.
the hot girls in my area care about confidence, status, family background, ambition, and some of them, money, your car and your house (not all tough). looks are the least of their concern when selecting a partner.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Just charge it to the game. Sometimes I admit I get a little frustrated when I meet a chick that seems into me and she has a boyfriend, and a few weeks later I run into them and find out I'm WAY better looking.

I remember in college one really hot chick seemed into me but she introduced me to her boyfriend who was 5'5" and about 275 - like Eric Cartman. I couldn't believe it.

Then I just remind myself it's her loss and I go bang some other chick.
 

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Closer68 said:
The hotter the chick, the less she cares about your looks.
Go online sometime to quickly disprove that theory.
 

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Maximus Rex said:
Yo man, there's a lot of people on here who aren't aware of how black people describe themselves. To the uninitiated, you need to explain what "high yellow," means.
I am of the white variety. From my thorough studying of this new fan dangled music they call rap, I have come to conclusion that a high yellow is a form of the elusive yellow bone. The lightest black skinned girl. Through his description I am thinking it is more along the lines of a red bone. Another elusive breed, but not so much as the yellow bone.
 

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so what you guys may find attractive me and others may not.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DJSebast said:
I've read most of the replies and a lot are about how the ugly guys can get lucky and that they were in the right social circle or other sh*t like that. But have any of you considered that the ugly guy has game, what if he is a Don Juan.. Looks don't really matter that much if you can show alpha-ness to the max, according to the bible...

But I'm still a beginner so what do I know..
This is correct to an extent, but in my opinion there's a line of separation that separates everything. If a guy is truly that ugly, then it doesn't matter how good his game is he will not be able to pull chicks. He'll have to be wealthy and buy girls nice things to secure anything sexual.

I'm 6'2" 210 pounds and work out regularly, I consider myself pretty knowledgeable. I know some guys who are shorter than me but are still cut and thus I consider them knowledgeable as well. But occasionally at the gym I see a bunch of 5'6" scrawny guys, and another guy of similar height only he is overweight, but he is instructing them all on how to lift. None of them are benching more than 95 pounds. I don't care if the fat kid knows everything about lifting because he has no results to prove it.

If a guy is really that ugly he could have the best game but won't pull any chicks (sober at least) because he won't ever be considered an option.
 
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