"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How do men who aren't a woman's fantasy preference deal with it?

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So if you were to randomly survey women on what kind of men they fall for, the following men would win or get a lot of votes:

Italian guys
Spaniard guys
Blonde guys with blue eyes
Black guys
Latino men from places like Puerto Rico or Brazil and such
White males with British or Australian accents

What if your name isn't up there?

Just how bad is it for men who are not from backgrounds that women go crazy for? How do they deal with being left out?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Women like good looking guys of all ethnicities, and dislike guys who are not good looking of all ethnicities including white. So you deal with it the same way any guy who isn't good looking deals with it.
 

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You either lift weights, kill yourself, or jerk off a lot :crackup: :D :crackup:
 
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I think being so handsome that you have plethora of women flock en masse is sometimes more of a crush than a blessing. Seeing as a resemble a cross between an Ewok and a Hobbit, at least I know the woman I am with is with me for more than my looks. :crackup:
 

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perseverance said:
I think being so handsome that you have plethora of women flock en masse is sometimes more of a crush than a blessing. Seeing as a resemble a cross between an Ewok and a Hobbit, at least I know the woman I am with is with me for more than my looks. :crackup:
Women like what you have on the inside when they already like what's on the outside! Being so handsome is a blessing! Just like being rich is.

Every women desires a muscular millionaire who's got a lot of time to spend with her. But not a lot of these guys exist, so guys have been lowering their standards. It went from the plain Janes, then the cougars, then the fatties, then the uglies, then the fuglies. Guys can work on getting physically and financially fit, but since they aren't that IN THE NOW, they are not desirable to a lot of women. I've seen guys bust their asses trying to get fit. From hours at the gym, to 120 hour workweeks.

If you aren't fantasy material, work on it.

Case closed.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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nismo-4 said:
Women like what you have on the inside when they already like what's on the outside! Being so handsome is a blessing! Just like being rich is.

Every women desires a muscular millionaire who's got a lot of time to spend with her. But not a lot of these guys exist, so guys have been lowering their standards. It went from the plain Janes, then the cougars, then the fatties, then the uglies, then the fuglies. Guys can work on getting physically and financially fit, but since they aren't that IN THE NOW, they are not desirable to a lot of women. I've seen guys bust their asses trying to get fit. From hours at the gym, to 120 hour workweeks.

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I know men like this...dudes in their 30s and 40s...worked hard for 10 years to build companies...some went IPO...guys workout, run marathons, do triathalons, kayak....get hair transplants

then the awful truth hits them

they are too old :yes: life has passed them by in terms of the really prime puzzy.

at least to get the 22 year old tight bodied hottie you can bounce a quarter off her azz.....and frankly who wants to fvck anything less

..the best the self made millionaire can do is get a 40 year old cougar with fake tits and sun tan liver spots she tries to hide with concealer.

its really said.

some millionaires have to settle for uglies..or even fuglies...its FUBAR really. and these are dudes who bike a 100 miles a week who rockclimb.


such is the entitlement of chicks these days...the true hotties are married by age 24 to dudes near their age...the rest are cokehead gold-diggers, methheads, gangbang queens....the best a millionaire can do is pornstar escorts. :rock:
 

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Burroughs said:
I know men like this...dudes in their 30s and 40s...worked hard for 10 years to build companies...some went IPO...guys workout, run marathons, do triathalons, kayak....get hair transplants

then the awful truth hits them

they are too old :yes: life has passed them by in terms of the really prime puzzy.

at least to get the 22 year old tight bodied hottie you can bounce a quarter off her azz.....and frankly who wants to fvck anything less

..the best the self made millionaire can do is get a 40 year old cougar with fake tits and sun tan liver spots she tries to hide with concealer.

its really said.

some millionaires have to settle for uglies..or even fuglies...its FUBAR really. and these are dudes who bike a 100 miles a week who rockclimb.


such is the entitlement of chicks these days...the true hotties are married by age 24 to dudes near their age...the rest are cokehead gold-diggers, methheads, gangbang queens....the best a millionaire can do is pornstar escorts. :rock:
At least you know that all this grind, motivation, and ambition isn't sexy, nor does it make your body and bank look any better. Have you ever heard of a woman say they want a future millionaire or think one is sexy? Do women even know what one looks like? I think not, so they only care about what you can do for them NOW, not later.

Ambition and goals used to be attractive. Not now in 2012. A working man trying to come up might be respected, but likely to get passed up when one who ACTUALLY MADE IT comes along.

Women have so many entitlement issues these days, and the facts that attraction is non-negotiable, the PUA movement is being spread further every day, and that women still delude themselves into thinking that a top 10% guy will be waiting for them doesn't help.

Where are you from anyway Burroughs?
 

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nismo-4 said:
Women have so many entitlement issues these days, and the facts that attraction is non-negotiable, the PUA movement is being spread further every day, and that women still delude themselves into thinking that a top 10% guy will be waiting for them doesn't help.

Where are you from anyway Burroughs?
California then moved to the East Coast.

Nismo we are the same age but I work with many older dudes...most of them wealthy and most of them having gone through the torture of divorce..

the main complaint I hear from in shape, very wealthy dudes is they can't find women to measure to even 20% of their standards....

By age 28 most women have at least 1 kid, are on 5 types of depression meds, have had group secks, gained 50 lbs, added 900% more arrogance than they had in college...its a nightmare.

example a short pudgy fattie with 3 kids thinks she's good enough to date a 30 year old man worth 20 million dollars, with a sailboat who runs marathons....

I mean what the fvck has this world come to...Its like biyaches after age 26 just eat everything in sight and double their weight...and still think they are entitled to male attention....fvck that I'll rent jenna haze by the hour before I supplicate to one of these entitled biyaches
 

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Burroughs said:
California then moved to the East Coast.

Never been there in my life. Would love to go though :D

Nismo we are the same age but I work with many older dudes...most of them wealthy and most of them having gone through the torture of divorce..

F**k getting married! That's one thing I'm scared of. I wouldn't marry a woman from Atlanta even if I was paid to do so.

the main complaint I hear from in shape, very wealthy dudes is they can't find women to measure to even 20% of their standards....

But they do get laid a lot. It's just the relationships that give those men trouble.

By age 28 most women have at least 1 kid, are on 5 types of depression meds, have had group secks, gained 50 lbs, added 900% more arrogance than they had in college...its a nightmare.

Blame that on Facebook (Facialbook), Twitter, OKCupid, POF, and similar sites. They're trying to get off the dik carousel.

example a short pudgy fattie with 3 kids thinks she's good enough to date a 30 year old man worth 20 million dollars, with a sailboat who runs marathons....

I was with a woman over 50 who seemed to like me, then flaked on me because she bought a Lexus. When I went out with another woman, she got very pissy. And then she tried to bait me by saying she had a problem under the hood of her car. I could've fixed it easily, but I told her ass to go to Lexus and get it taken care of. As I was hanging up, she started to curse me. She thought she can hold out for a millionaire, but she was dropping me because I'm a working man trying to come up. :rolleyes: Some desirability!

I mean what the fvck has this world come to...Its like biyaches after age 26 just eat everything in sight and double their weight...and still think they are entitled to male attention....fvck that I'll rent jenna haze by the hour before I supplicate to one of these entitled biyaches

Like I said, women over 60 think they're entitled! This is part of why I don't believe in true love.
I've never been to California a day in my life, but I heard about how shallow the women are out there. Atlanta has lots of them too. Women have these entitlement issues because they have these 3 moist holes that men enjoy. But sadly, male choice is rarely, if ever enforced. But female choice is more commonly enforced. Here's the thing. A 26 year old woman is more likely to get laid than a 26 year old man.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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i use substance abuse and internet porn to deal with it.
 

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"I want to be married with kids by age 25".

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