"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How do I stop internally freaking out in the middle of cold approaches?

Deicide

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Hello, my approach anxiety is there, but much less than it used to be. I cold approach on a regular basis, though usually with some hesitation. Lately, my hesitation has been due to lacking an opener to use, especially on 2/3 sets and mixed groups.

My inner game still has been lacking. I cold approached a girl outside class this morning using that 3 second rule(It helped that I had planned on approaching her from a previous time). She was very receptive to me, unlike most women when I open. But when it came time for me to think of using DHV's(I got a couple), my mind freaked out at that point, and I froze up right during the transition point, and she left. It hurt me, but I will recover from it. Maybe it could also be that I hadn't said more than 30 words all day at that point? I know MM(Mystery Method) says you need three warm-up sets to really get going.

The same thing happened yesterday when I approached a 2-set while they were eating. I asked them if they knew anyone going to a party coming up, and I was nervous during the interaction, though it went deeper into conversation. When it came time to DHV, I did it in a half-ass way mentioning a Morrocan girl I had met in the shops, and one of the girls said "Is that your type then?" I just responded normally even though I could've IOD'd by telling them "Yes, it is, and you don't seem to fit that profile." So, I'm trying to use more advanced PU techniques in my game(I turned my back on a girl during an approach and ended up getting her number yesterday), but my inner game still hasn't been growing.

Honestly, I'm always concerned about people finding out about me doing PU stuff here, so I'm associating too much negativity with PU. And I'm scared to use opinion openers for fear that they know I'm trying to pick them up, though I got a couple that I've been dieing to use. What can I do to stop freaking out in the middle of cold approaches? It doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes, typically in 2/3 sets. Yes, I think I have about 200 cold approaches or so under my belt now, still not enough. I want my insecurities to go away.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Julius_Seizeher

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Remember that caring is creepy.
 

Deicide

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Julius_Seizeher said:
Remember that caring is creepy.
Interesting observation. A lot of things can be creepy without realizing it initially. My cold approaches after that went much better. I know I could've got a number off one, but she had a husband.
 

ENIGMA16

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Think about the girl taking a giant, steamy sh!t on the toilet, or how she'll look in 60 years.
 
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