"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How do i get past this girl's barriers: (real life "There's something about Marry"

BorealFace

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Hey everyone! Yup i'm new to the forums but have frequented the site for several years now. Yes, i have indeed read the DJ bible and tips... but heres the deal. Theres this girl, extremely attractive, that i know likes me to some extent. My friend, who gets laid at least once every 12 days by hot girls, tried to make hook up with her and failed, and so we walked off and talked instead. I can charm any girl very easily, and have no problems with other girls ( i do not have problems with confidence or communicating with this girl BTW). She knows damn well i like her, and there are about 7 other guys (some are also my friends) trying to get her. So far i have made the most progress by far by charming her and getting her number, all the usual DJ ****... But there are two obstacles i have not seen covered yet that are blocking my path:
She has a guardian *****. Her best friend and cousin. Always with her, and she is a needle in my side. No matter how much i try to charm her and use DJ techniques to isolate this girl from her guardian, it is IMPOSSIBLE. They are glue. And her guardian is a classic guy hating girl, and nothing can change that. Every time i ask the girl for a date,her guard ***** interrupts "Were going out of town this weekend" or "We have something planned" even though the girl is interested in it. Of course i've said "Just forget about going out of town with her, hang with me" but no dice, she can't resist the urge to drive out of town to some ranch thier relative owns to get drunk. And calling her cell phone? Tried it. Works sometimes, but her guard ***** is always there, they live together. So I'm at the end of my rope, what do i do? How do i get the guard ***** off my case and convince the girl that i'm more fun then some stupid booze ranch. She wants me to teach her to play guitare, but again, the guardian interferes with "we must go out of town that day". Even my friend who is the biggest DJ in the school failed to penetrate the guard *****, and now i am trying. What a load of crap, anny suggestions?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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xomel

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ever think of just asking her. its more obvious than you think...

"do you not want us to hang out or something?"
"oh, i see, you're jealous ill take her away from you"
 

LikRetsam

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Quite simply... Seduce the guardian ;)
 

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I will indeed try to seduce the guardian. Ever seen that guy hating club in Jerry Maguire? Well, thats how she is so its gonna be tough. Anyway i finally called the girl in private, the guardian wasn't ther cuz of soccer practice so she agreed to date me, but shes playing the "*****" game (she agrees to but is sarcastic and *****y) but i know how to handel that, now its just the damn guardian...
 

xomel

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Originally posted by xomel
ever think of just asking her. its more obvious than you think...

"do you not want us to hang out or something?"
"oh, i see, you're jealous ill take her away from you"
what is stopping you from doing this?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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TonyTheTigerOI

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It could have been worse...

It could have been her stepdad ****blocking you in hunting gear. Baddd experience.

Anyways - all you need is the respect of the gaurdian.

When the stepdad started YELLING at me as I was parking my car...

"HEY -- are you here to pick up my daughter!?" I rolled down my window and yelled back, "Yes sir, right after I park my car!" I walked in his huge house (past his $80k truck) stood 2 feet infront of him, looked him in the eye, extended my hand and said "Hi, Im Anthony, Chelsea and I had plans to go out tonite"

You know what? His chizzled jawline relaxed, he smiled, introduced himself with a FIRM handshake, turned to his wife and said, "I like this one."

So, what do you do?

When you are with this hot girl and her gaurdian and anyone else... as soon as you are having a great time - her interest is peaked - you flat out tell her where you stand

"Wow, this is a lot of fun! We should go out, just the two of us." When the gaurdian perks up, just say, "Look <gaurdians name> I have a crush on your cousin - shes really cool and totally cute - if its ok with YOU I would like to get to know her better"

It takes balls... but at least the gaurdian isnt a millionair laywer with a bullet wound in his left shoulder and a gunrack should be in a SWAT car.
 
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