"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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how do i get around this problem?

pete101

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ok so i called my HB and i tried to make arrangements. then she tells me she doesn't make arrangements ever.. even on dates.

then she tells me 'maybe we shouldn't meet anymore cos i'm just looking to have fun so if you keep making arrangements and pushing for a time then maybe we shouldn't see each other anymore'

in translation.. i'm being too pushy trying to get her to promise me a time and she just wants to go partying with her girls.

i dont think it's an unreasonable request to make arrangements with her in advance but she wants to do it casually.

now i've p1ssed her off cos i've been too full on she said no for tonight so i asked about tomorrow cos she was suppose to tell me today she wouldn't give me an answer. then she said she had to go cos she was eating with her friends.

it's over but how on earth was i suppose to arange a date with a girl like this who won't commit to a time??
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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pete101

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do i need to tell her i'm willing to walk away?

i see this backfiring cos she'd just think ok saves me the hassle. i just don't understand girls like this who try to treat you as a friend in terms of arrangements and expect you to be cool about it all.

if she cancels on you twice or won't commit on a time i dont see how you can be casual about it except leaving it in her court. an ultimatum of its up to her to let me know when she's free i dont' see working.. or does it ever work?
 

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yes you walk away. she is pulling away yet you keep pushing. with these types of chicks you have to detach yourself.

btw, didn't you already make a thread about this?
 
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