"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How do I dodge this type of guy?

DoTheDew

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So the other night while at the gym I ran into this HB i know and she asked me out for drinks the next night. So I get there and everything is cool because we are Negging and working Kino. Then about an hour later this guy walks up and starts talking to everyone. He starts talking to her immediately! I know who the guy is but lets just say he is the "Confident-I-Already-****ed-Her" Guy. We ended up going to the dance floor and I danced with the girls friend while the other guy was dancing with the HB I wanted. He wouldn't leave her alone at all. I finally started to dance with her while he went to the restroom and he comes back sees me dancing with her and then tries to get my attention because all of a sudden he wants to invite me to hang out with him on the weekend while I'm dancing with her! What a CB! Then him and some other guy are basically battling for the HB on the dance floor while i chill out and have a drink. So I'm not really having a great time and decide before I feel anymore uncomfortable I bail out and say my good nights to the ladies and the HB comes up to me gives me a hug, then kisses me on the lips. WTF.......


This guy I have been talking to you about seems always to have the upperhand because hes already ****ed her a handful of times which makes him feel like the ****. He looks like an AFC. Anyways he always seems to pop up when I'm there talking to her and he ruins the whole thing....how do I dodge his BS and grab the HB's attention back?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Daddy The Pimp

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I dont know about you , but for myself , i would make fun of him . Its my specialty :D . I would put down his confidence and self esteem he would never think to mess with me again .

Try to make fun of him , make him demostrate his low value . Amog him , ask him if he's sick or something because he looks like he is . I have some good games to put down their self esteem and confidence .

I know this is not a DJ way , but its effective .

If you want the DJ way , just next her . And have fun with other girls .
I would also try , that night to get her friend . Thats it .
 

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To be honest, he sounds sooo clingy. She asked you for drinks, so she should be yours already. Just let him dance with her all night, she'll get bored and wonder why you're not competing with him for her. This'll up her interest big time! Remember, when two guys compete for one girl, they both lose. Any attempts to AMOG him should be very subtle.
 

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DoTheDew said:
So the other night while at the gym I ran into this HB i know and she asked me out for drinks the next night. So I get there and everything is cool because we are Negging and working Kino. Then about an hour later this guy walks up and starts talking to everyone. He starts talking to her immediately! I know who the guy is but lets just say he is the "Confident-I-Already-****ed-Her" Guy. We ended up going to the dance floor and I danced with the girls friend while the other guy was dancing with the HB I wanted. He wouldn't leave her alone at all.

Why did you let him dance with the girl you wanted to sleep with? Why didn't you tell him to step off? Don't blame him for trying to dance and sleep with her, he's out looking for some action just like the rest of us. If I saw a girl I liked and wanted to dance and sleep with her, I would do the same thing.

I finally started to dance with her while he went to the restroom and he comes back sees me dancing with her and then tries to get my attention because all of a sudden he wants to invite me to hang out with him on the weekend while I'm dancing with her! What a CB!

So he has to leave you alone just because you are dancing with her? I don' think so. For all you know, the girl could have paid him to do that just to see how you would react.

Then him and some other guy are basically battling for the HB on the dance floor while i chill out and have a drink. So I'm not really having a great time and decide before I feel anymore uncomfortable I bail out

I would hate to see what would happen if the HB was your wife and a guy tried to step in. Would you get divorced because you are uncomfortable?


This guy I have been talking to you about seems always to have the upperhand because hes already ****ed her a handful of times which makes him feel like the ****. He looks like an AFC.

As long as he gets what's in between in legs, he won't care if he looks like a monkey.

Anyways he always seems to pop up when I'm there talking to her and he ruins the whole thing....how do I dodge his BS and grab the HB's attention back?
Your issue is with yourself and the HB, not with him. You have to tell him to back off or if HB you want to sleep with liked you, she would also tell him to back off. But it seems like she really enjoys the attention so I don't know dude, you may have an issue with her too.

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Yeah, so now i found out that he didn't go home with her nor her with him. They just went their separate ways that evening come to find out.

So last night I went to a party over at his house and like i said i know the guy like i guess you could say we are friends when it DOESNT come to girls, we had some beer pong going and some good music playing and i started talking to one of his roommates which is a really hot HB9 sooo she plays beerpong with me all night and is dancing rubbing up against me and its just awesome then the dude and the HB9 along with about 3 others go into a bathroom probably to smoke weed. They all come out and then him and the HB9 go back into the bathroom and shut the door lol. I see how he keeps doing this crap to me....he already knows all the girls i want to get with so its pretty damn easy to adjust yourself to the situation when you are comfortable....like last girl from the club was a girl he already had sex with so naturally he was how should i say "IN LIKE FLYNN" so i guess i either HAVE to get these girls alone or just talk to girls he doesn't know....but telling him to back off or what not wont go down well...i mean sure i could take him out if it ever came to it but he has NEVER messed with any girls I have brought over and he obviously knows im with. I guess I gotta go hunt me some new HBs that we dont know mutually.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The other guy sounds like one of those AFC's that women use for sex because she knows she can have him easily. Like Daddy the Pimp said, just make fun of him because he has oneitis by the sounds of things.

You can also use him as an example of what NOT to do! :D
 

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Try to make fun of him , make him demostrate his low value . Amog him , ask him if he's sick or something because he looks like he is . I have some good games to put down their self esteem and confidence .

Lol, and if he doesn't proceed to beat the **** out of you after, then he's not really alpha. :crackup:
 
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