"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How did I f**k up so bad? LMAO

lightofhatred

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Okay okay;
so I ****blocked this faggot on facebook his status was "sarah is cool" -> me "yeah she totally wants my ****". From there it started. Talking to her veeeeeeeeery smoothly, got her to dump him and get into a "relationship" with me in 4 days.

tl;dr We met up after I declined her relationship request on facebook, she ignored me and was awkward. Like wt****? Her friend and me kept good eye contact and all but both girls just completely ignored me and talked to her male friend (she had 2 friends there). I didn't neg or ****. Anyway we left. I asked for a hug. Got told to f**k off?

I actually have no clue what happened? I texted both of those girls veeeeery smoothly; defiant high interest. I think that guy (her friend) just was a natural Alpha "/ (he was sooooo getting laid later).

Shed me some light?

(she was an HB9 LOL ****blocked a guys HB9 ;D)

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Why would you want a girl that did what she did with the other guy? She dumped the other guy for you. Who wants a girl like that?

Why would you try to get a girl once she's in a relationship. smh

Even if you ever do this do it just for the lay... Don't ever get in a relationship with them.
 

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I wanted the lay AND revenge (he TRIED to ****blocked me earlier this year; result = him getting dumped and </3 LOL).

Don't worry man I know. If she does it to someone else for you; she'd do it the other way. But i'm wondering what happened? Can someone shed any light? I can almost see I had a 100% chance but I fcked up somehow.
 

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lightofhatred said:
I wanted the lay AND revenge (he TRIED to ****blocked me earlier this year; result = him getting dumped and </3 LOL).

Don't worry man I know. If she does it to someone else for you; she'd do it the other way. But i'm wondering what happened? Can someone shed any light? I can almost see I had a 100% chance but I fcked up somehow.
You didn't really shed any light on the situation or what happened in your brief "relationship" with her. All I see is a bunch of Facebook drama. I guess she could take that hard if you guys are high school kids. But I suspect there's something more.

Need more details.
 

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"We met up after I declined her relationship request on facebook"

People take seriously when someone doesn´t add them as friends on facebook, even more when it´s a relationship request... She might have thought you were embarassed to be her boyfriend...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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People take seriously when someone doesn't add them as friends on facebook, even more when it´s a relationship request... She might have thought you were embarrassed to be her boyfriend...
I second that. You have to keep women in an indefinite limbo. If they think you like them too much, the challenge, sexual tension, and social anxiety evaporate instantly. If they feel too rejected, then they might search elsewhere to feel qualified or cultivate a resentment against you.

However, I still thing you were right in not accepting a relationship request from her on facebook. She's an HB9 so the amount of attention she's gotten has probably put her on a sky pedestal, you simply took her off of there. She's probably used to guys doing a backwards tumble when she gives them a relationship request. By declining, you've established your higher social value and a need for her to qualify herself AND the fact that your not as AFC as the other guys she's dated.

We met up after I declined her relationship request on facebook, she ignored me and was awkward. Like wt****? Her friend and me kept good eye contact and all but both girls just completely ignored me and talked to her male friend
This is where your mistake was.

Why did she meet up with you if she was mad? She wanted to challenge you and put you through a shyt test. You should have just spent the time texting another girl and acting disinterested and then left early. Never apologize for being masculine.

Keep this rule in mind. It doesn't matter if a girl DISLIKES you more, it only matters if she is LESS ATTRACTED to you. I e; if you're a **** to a girl and she likes you less and has a power trip, she'll still get vagina tingles from your Alphaness. If you back down and look for qualification because a girls being mean to you, you ruin your attraction level by acting more beta so even if she's nicer to you, you probably won't get laid.

I think that guy (her friend) just was a natural Alpha
If you ever assume that another guy is more Alpha, YOU will act more beta and let him AMOG you. Most of social dynamics is based on self-fulfilling prophecies predicated on pre-conceived notions that people have.

I didn't neg or ****. Anyway we left. I asked for a hug. Got told to f**k off?
This is your mistake. You regressed into AFC mode because you were intimidated by her shyt test. She was mad because you took her off her pedestal, but she still wanted your d*ck. Until of course, you caved in and asked for a hug. When a girl initiates a **** test, NEVER EVER seek qualification. In fact, I remember Jophil saying that you should make sure a girl loses territory when she has a power trip.

Stay Alpha.
 

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I declined her relationship request on facebook
There.

Why the **** would you do that? You know you rejected her right? After getting her to split with her boyfriend so she could be with you, you rejected her xD!

Didn't read the other replies, but someone else even said it.

Again: Why?
 

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Hakuna said:
I second that. You have to keep women in an indefinite limbo. If they think you like them too much, the challenge, sexual tension, and social anxiety evaporate instantly. If they feel too rejected, then they might search elsewhere to feel qualified or cultivate a resentment against you.

However, I still thing you were right in not accepting a relationship request from her on facebook. She's an HB9 so the amount of attention she's gotten has probably put her on a sky pedestal, you simply took her off of there. She's probably used to guys doing a backwards tumble when she gives them a relationship request. By declining, you've established your higher social value and a need for her to qualify herself AND the fact that your not as AFC as the other guys she's dated.



This is where your mistake was.

Why did she meet up with you if she was mad? She wanted to challenge you and put you through a shyt test. You should have just spent the time texting another girl and acting disinterested and then left early. Never apologize for being masculine.

Keep this rule in mind. It doesn't matter if a girl DISLIKES you more, it only matters if she is LESS ATTRACTED to you. I e; if you're a **** to a girl and she likes you less and has a power trip, she'll still get vagina tingles from your Alphaness. If you back down and look for qualification because a girls being mean to you, you ruin your attraction level by acting more beta so even if she's nicer to you, you probably won't get laid.



If you ever assume that another guy is more Alpha, YOU will act more beta and let him AMOG you. Most of social dynamics is based on self-fulfilling prophecies predicated on pre-conceived notions that people have.



This is your mistake. You regressed into AFC mode because you were intimidated by her shyt test. She was mad because you took her off her pedestal, but she still wanted your d*ck. Until of course, you caved in and asked for a hug. When a girl initiates a **** test, NEVER EVER seek qualification. In fact, I remember Jophil saying that you should make sure a girl loses territory when she has a power trip.

Stay Alpha.
You
Are
A
God

Well now, I deleted her on FB, and now i'm texting her calling her socially awkward. Pretty much think I have it back in the bag aye.
Thanks man; opened up my eyes a sh!t load <3
 

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I dont see anything alpha about this little drama.

just read through it and laughed very hard.
 

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man, so hard to contain myself on this one. I'm just gunna let it go...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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PapiChulo said:
I dont see anything alpha about this little drama.

just read through it and laughed very hard.

Laughing at people trying to fix there problems? :L
Your the man. I wish I was just like you and had the guts to say that kind of **** over the internet!
 

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I know, you should try to be like me.
 
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