"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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iqqi said:
Stop posting in bold, you look like an idiot. Please use things like bold, colors, and italics sparingly.

I am not even going to read that.
If the package the message is delivered in upsets you to the point that you default to shallow insults and such, then the precious message inside was not meant for you... And there is no reason for you to read it...

If i need to stress something i will use standard methods such as bolding.. And you inturn will feel free to do things your way and neither of us will try to impose our opinions on one another.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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iqqi said:
Well, someone needed to tell you. ;)
I really needed to stress those points in that post due to the harshness and importance of the reality held within. I take sociology very seriously dude.. I get passionate and I have to express myself in bold.. Sorry if it makes you emotional and such. it will be ok..:D
 

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iqqi said:
Maybe you should post in the MM forum, then. And/or ignore the immature remarks... this IS a boys' playground. You have to be prepared if you are going to ask them for advice.
Nonsense. When she is referring to immature remarks, she means dissenting remarks. It's a common defense mechanism.

And let's be clear here - she wasn't asking for advice, she was asking for attention and shoulders to cry on. She posted the same thread on loveshack hours before here. The appearance of this thread coincides with the time it was losing steam over there.

What is the advice being sought? What's her question?

The only way this could possibly turn into something worthwhile is if it brings to light how men on this board really interact with women, as opposed to philosophical ideals and unsubstantiated field reports. As I said above, AFC now stands for Available For Compassion.

DonGorgon said:
I really needed to stress those points in that post due to the harshness and importance of the reality held within. I take sociology very seriously dude.. I get passionate and I have to express myself in bold.. Sorry if it makes you emotional and such. it will be ok..:D
You really need to STFU. You don't take sociology seriously; you throw around useless cliches like "estrogen makes women illogical." You're not funny, you're not serious, and you're not enlightening.

Look at the good writers here, or the respected commentators. Do they rely on emotocons, bolded text or italics? Now, I don't mean to imply that the use of such techniques is the only think that prevents your intellect from being respected, but it'd be a start.
 

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Nonsense. When she is referring to immature remarks, she means dissenting remarks. It's a common defense mechanism.

And let's be clear here - she wasn't asking for advice, she was asking for attention and shoulders to cry on. She posted the same thread on loveshack hours before here. The appearance of this thread coincides with the time it was losing steam over there.

What is the advice being sought? What's her question?

The only way this could possibly turn into something worthwhile is if it brings to light how men on this board really interact with women, as opposed to philosophical ideals and unsubstantiated field reports. As I said above, AFC now stands for Available For Compassion.
Perhaps it was a way for Lishy to think out loud...a way to collect her thoughts and gain some perspective on her issue. She obviously is not happy with her bf, and she is likely conflicted. So she posts here and on LS to hear what others think. She heard opposing views and ones that confirmed her own feelings.

There is nothing wrong with this. Sometimes people post with answers and thoughts already on their mind...they just want to sort it all out. Posting is sometimes the organizing of internal dialog.

Ain't nothing wrong with that scratch.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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scratch said:
You really need to STFU. You don't take sociology seriously; you throw around useless cliches like "estrogen makes women illogical." You're not funny, you're not serious, and you're not enlightening.

Look at the good writers here, or the respected commentators. Do they rely on emotocons, bolded text or italics? Now, I don't mean to imply that the use of such techniques is the only think that prevents your intellect from being respected, but it'd be a start.
I took all 20 something of your posts into consideration before formulating my response to your little emotionally fueled hissy fit quoted above...

The importance of your respect level of my intellect is minimal at best. :eek:
That being said i honestly believe that, hostility aside, your disagreement with my angle, content and style can only serve to improve the chances that those seeking answers are able to get a more varied set of information which will in turn inspire deep reflection and introspection resulting in an improved, stronger mind.

In closing:

I do take sociology very seriously; I do throw around well crafted-one liners like "estrogen makes women illogical." I am sometimes funny, I am very serious, and I am enlightening to some. And emoticaons were put there for a reason - to use.:cool:
 

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DonGorgon said:
I took all 20 something of your posts into consideration before formulating my response to your little emotionally fueled hissy fit quoted above...

The importance of your respect level of my intellect is minimal at best. :eek:
That being said i honestly believe that, hostility aside, your disagreement with my angle, content and style can only serve to improve the chances that those seeking answers are able to get a more varied set of information which will in turn inspire deep reflection and introspection resulting in an improved, stronger mind.

In closing:

I do take sociology very seriously; I do throw around well crafted-one liners like "estrogen makes women illogical." I am sometimes funny, I am very serious, and I am enlightening to some. And emoticaons were put there for a reason - to use.:cool:
Unlike you, who simply referenced my dearth of posts to discredit my arguments, I actually did take your posts into account. Seems you're a self-hating black guy who blames his failures with women on socioeconomics. Bad news for you, sparky - socioeconomics is used as a specific term apart from race that takes wealth, education and exposure into account. You either fail because you hate your race, or you suck at life.

Here's a little rope with which you can hang yourself - where have you read about the correlation between estrogen and logic? What sociological works speak to the ability of men to communicate with women better than women can communicate with men?

This, boys and girls, is an example of why you should be wary when someone describes their education as "some college."
 

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The time has come: sosuave has been overtaken, overpowered, and overflow with women. This thread is the proof of it all.
 
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amoka said:
The time has come: sosuave has be overtaken, overpowered, and overflow with women. This thread is the proof of it all.
methink so too.

and to macavoy, if u want to be her bro and her advise her on her personal emotional problems she needs to sort out on, you can. I sure have no issues with that!

But when it comes to SS site and the DJ Discussion board, what are we supposed to do here? Though it is basically a site where improvement of guys are focussed so that they become better MEN for the women or simply, they know how to act like the man the women want, but sure I also welcome the idea of helping women, who needs advice on how to become the WOMEN that guys want, out here....

to purple haze.... girl, i sure agree with you that yes, there are situations when we are confused and we need to sort out by what others say. But what if you have broken your ankle, and you see ur bf is not paying any mind to that, what would u do? you would post any thread on how sad you are and that your bf is so cold on that. dude, go get a life! you can take the decision instantly yourself. would you be able to put up with this attitude of his or you need to leave him? I have no issues with gals consoling to her and giving her that emotional support and clearing out her emotional confusion as well. But the guys who are so on in declaring themselves as 'NICE GUYS' to the lady, do remember that the lady is still out there and the guy might be sleeping with her the night after and you are just being the emotional sponge for her tears!

Don't you remember that if you get a girl attracted and know how to keep her attracted, she will stay around because that is just showing the compliance to your value, which she showed when they first got together. Damn it guys, I am not asking anyone of you to change yourselves, but when you claim yourself as a DJ, be true to yourself and be like one. DON'T BE A EMOTIONAL TAMPON!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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SilverSonnet said:
Lmao, I cant believe you guys are arguing about bold, italics and emoticons...
Exactly... that is what happens when one cant contribute to the issue at hand so instead focuses on the simplistic irrelevant side issues and superficialities.. It's quite a sad thing actually.:eek:
 

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Actually it is the MEN or should I say BOYS who ruin this place

They act like retards and I am so embarressed for them!

Seriously!
 

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scratch said:
Unlike you, who simply referenced my dearth of posts to discredit my arguments, I actually did take your posts into account. Seems you're a self-hating black guy who blames his failures with women on socioeconomics. Bad news for you, sparky - socioeconomics is used as a specific term apart from race that takes wealth, education and exposure into account. You either fail because you hate your race, or you suck at life.

Here's a little rope with which you can hang yourself - where have you read about the correlation between estrogen and logic? What sociological works speak to the ability of men to communicate with women better than women can communicate with men?

This, boys and girls, is an example of why you should be wary when someone describes their education as "some college."
At last the true motive of your irrational emotional upheaval come to light...LOL The painfull truths exposed in that old Socioeconomics thread are still hurting you deeply...LOL

I am glad that thread had such a profound effect on you. Agreement and disagreement are seldom of any concern to me. Exchanging of ideas and broadening of mental scope is far more desirable.

Oh and I have a degree. Thats more than "some college"
 

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Lishy said:
Actually it is the MEN or should I say BOYS who ruin this place

They act like retards and I am so embarressed for them!

Seriously!
Well.... hmmm.... luckily for us all nature only requires that we reproduce at a higher rate than we die and society requires that we earn money in a peaceful law abiding manner... So i have little embarrassement or any other emotional response to any of this stuff...:eek:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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@Lishy: Sorry about your friend, and yes, your boyfriend was completely out of line. I usually stick up for guys for their girlfriends complain about them, but this is over the top. It's not being a DJ, it's being a prick.

@DonGordon: Come on man, what's wrong with you?? She just lost her friend. So be a good sport and save the terminator rhetoric for another thread.
 

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@DonGordon: Come on man, what's wrong with you?? She just lost her friend. So be a good sport and save the terminator rhetoric for another thread.
.. I did ... did you see my early posts... then the captains and AFCs swarmed and started attacking me.. I treat her nice... real but still nice.. even when she jabs at me which she likes to do...
 

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so whats the deal? did she dump the guy? Someone post an update.
 

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Why is death such a big deal? Wake up call guys, you are dying right now, day by day. I had to watch my mom die from MS slowly over 15 years. It was as ugly and drawn out of a death as possible. Last week a friend died in a car crash. I'll miss him, but big deal. It's just DEATH.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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