"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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How Close is too Close?

scammbone

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First Post!:woo:

Heres the scenario:

It's about 9pm and I'm walking through my apartment complex to where my car is parked on my way to the store.

As I'm walking along the pathway this chick comes out of another building in front of me and I see her giving me the scan out of the corner of her eye. She starts walking in front of me and I'm fully checking her out. Heels, tight jeans, ridiculous posterior...nice.

Apparently we parked in the same area of the parking structure, because I got to enjoy the view the whole way. All of a sudden she stops walking totally pretending like she's looking for her car and I pass her up. As I get a few steps pass her she says "hi". I turn and address her but don't stop walking as were making small talk. After small talking for a few seconds. The conversation dies and I wish her a goodnight and go about my way. When I start walking again she asks if she can introduce herself (we didn't exchange names or anything before) She ends up telling me how she just moved from LA and has no friends in the area. At that time I'm thinking I should #-close but I puss out and end up telling her how great it is here, and end our second conversation with "hopefully I'll see you around"

As I get in my car I'm thinking to myself how I should have gotten her number. She's in front of me as were driving out of the gate of our complex and I tell my self if she turns my way and we both have to stop at the light I'm gonna get her number.

At that moment the universe intervenes. A car coming the opposite way honks the horn for some reason. She thinks it's me and stops in the road and waves me to come up along side of her. I tell her it wasn't me that honked, I was going to get her number but realize I left my phone in the house and tell her to take mine down. She said she'd call me tomorrow and I end by saying "now you know somebody in the area".

Would you game a girl that lives in the same apartment complex as you? It's always seemed like not such a good idea to me because I like my privacy and most girls I know are a little bit crazy. lol

Also feel free to critique me on this interaction here.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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TheBucketOfTruth

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Go for it. Do it for all of us. I hate to think about all the times I've had good looking women all about me, and my oblivious, absent-minded self got in the way of things going anywhere.
 

jophil28

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scammbone said:
When I start walking again she asks if she can introduce herself (we didn't exchange names or anything before) She ends up telling me how she just moved from LA and has no friends in the area.....
THis is a classic example of how women make themselves 'available' covertly, and invite men to connect with them..
A lot of men (including yours' truly ) often totally MISS these signals -perhaps because we are not aware of how sharp and 'on the ball' some women can be, and how they transmit buying signals.
Gentlemen, unless you are Bradley Pitt, she will signal her interest in you INDIRECTLY at first . And she will CONTINUE to send signals of interest in various ways until you 'get' them, or she decides that you are a lost cause because your 'receiver' is busted.

To the OP ,fortunately she 'forgave' you for missing the first cue because she tossed you another chance when she stopped her car to talk to you.
 

scammbone

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We'll see if she actually calls.

What do you guys think about giving a girl YOUR number instead of the other way around?
 

Kailex

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scammbone said:
We'll see if she actually calls.

What do you guys think about giving a girl YOUR number instead of the other way around?
I hate it.
It gives them control of the frame and another trophy in their long line of phone numbers within their trophy case of a cell phone.

I avoid giving out my number at first, at all costs.
I want to get the number so I can call whenever I want to and feel comfortable doing so. It gives me the frame of control and establishes me taking the lead.

Whether she flakes or not eventually is not the matter at hand here.
It's about establishing certain parameters from the get-go.

"I want your phone number."
"I want to you to come out with me on Thursday."
"I like the way that shirt looks on you."
"I'd like to get to know you better."
"I'd like to rock your world."

All of these situations establish the word "I" FIRST and only after does she enter the picture.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Huffman

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Quick tip: if you don't have your phone with you, simply have her send you a text message (with you watching). Then her number is on your phone.
 

scammbone

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Huffman said:
Quick tip: if you don't have your phone with you, simply have her send you a text message (with you watching). Then her number is on your phone.
Thanks for the tip I'll use it next time I find myself without my phone.
 

Commandante

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scammbone said:
When I start walking again she asks if she can introduce herself ... She ends up telling me how she just moved from LA and has no friends in the area.
She only wants to get know some people in the new city. Learn reading between the lines mate! But anyhow, knowing hotties is a good thing, even if they are not attracted to you...
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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